I saw the Chinese date-stamp in his email and deducted the same, hence why
I said it might be wise to add the language of his installation, so people
are aware (but to django-users).

Don't really know what serveral pages are, but I do understand language
barrier problems :p (just kidding, hugz typo's)

As for a Chinese documentation project, I think that might be something for
the Chinese users, who are fluent in English, to do.
I don't think many of the devs are versed in Mandarin or Cantonese, (other
then the little Cantonese they might have picked up from watching movies
out of Hong Kong XD).

Personally, as I keep telling people in my lil country, even if it bothers
you, try doing stuff in other languages, knowing them will only benefit you
in the long run.
I personally hate dubbed TV shows, especially children programs for over
the age of 8. If they leave them in the native language, with subtitles,
the kids will pick up the basics of the languages very easily and the more
contact they have at a young age, with other languages, the more easily
they'll learn new languages throughout their life.

But, for older users, I can certainly understand it to be a potential
source of frustrations, even more so, if you are professionally tasked to
research the subject and don't have the time to get well versed in English.

r/Jan

2012/4/11 bhuztez <bhuz...@gmail.com>

> The document clearly states that "You'll see a message for each
> database table it creates".
>
> I guess Jason Ma had a hard time reading the document because it is
> written in English. Native Chinese speakers who are not quite familiar
> with English will feel desperate when they had to read serveral pages
> of document in English. Just imagine how desperate will you be if you
> have to read pages of document in Chinese when you just learned Ni
> Hao.
>
> Django is getting more and more popular in China recently. More and
> more people there are asking questions like how to do this or that in
> Django, most of the time, it is just because it is too hard for them
> to understand the document on their own. I propose that Django has a
> Chinese translation of its document. Sure, there is a huge amount of
> work. If core team decides to work on this, I would like to help.
>
>
> Disclaimer: I do not know Jason Ma, I guess he is a Native Chinese
> speaker because I googled his email found his email appears on some
> Chinese website.
>
>
> On 4月11日, 下午9时29分, Aymeric Augustin
> <aymeric.augus...@polytechnique.org> wrote:
> > Hi Jason,
> >
> > Le 11 avril 2012 14:10, Jason Ma <rosegu...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >
> > > I heavily doubted that whether the writers have tested that carefully.
> >
> > As one of the many people who replayed the tutorial from A to Z,
> > checked every little detail, updated screenshots, etc. before the
> > release of 1.4, I feel your feedback is rather unfair.
> >
> > > There are many people saying the Django is well-documented, do you
> > > still think  it is true?
> >
> > Django's documentation assumes that the reader:
> > - has some familiarity with Python (e.g. knows what a __init__.py or a
> > *.pyc file is)
> > - is an autodidact and is able to investigate by himself when (s)he
> > deviates from the recommended path and encounters an unexpected
> > behavior (e.g. syncdb doesn't perform migrations).
> >
> > Honestly, if this doesn't match your expectations at all, then Django
> > might not be the right framework for you.
> >
> > I still believe our documentation compares favorably to most
> > open-source software entirely developed by volunteers in their free
> > time.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > --
> > Aymeric.
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