On Monday, February 20, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Aymeric Augustin wrote: > (subject changed because I'm forking the discussion) > > On 20 févr. 2012, at 21:29, Anssi Kääriäinen wrote: > > > Another question I have meant to ask is if 1.4 is too early to have > > USE_TZ = True as default setting? I am afraid there are still some > > bugs to iron out, some documentation to improve, helper functions to > > add and most of all the timezone handling might confuse new users. > > > > > I was thinking about that too. > > The main reason for enabling time zone support by default in new projects > (through the settings.py template) was to store UTC in the database (on > SQLite, MySQL and Oracle; PostgreSQL always does that anyway). > > This decision was certainly skewed by my background in enterprise software, > where reliable handling of datetimes is a no brainer. But this isn't the most > common use case for Django. > > Python doesn't make it very easy to deal with time zones, so forcing that > concept on developers isn't friendly. The "right way" to do things is > impractical, and there isn't that much space for improvement. Besides, the > average website doesn't need time zone support, and IRC discussions show that > developers don't care. > > What do others think? I'm very much pro USE_TZ = True being the default. (On another note, i'm also Pro TIME_ZONE defaulting to UTC). UTC is the only time representation that makes sense for long term storage. All of the other timezones all have a long list of "gotchas" to dealing with them, especially in the storage side. > -- > Aymeric. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Django developers" group. > To post to this group, send email to django-developers@googlegroups.com > (mailto:django-developers@googlegroups.com). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > (mailto:django-developers+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com). > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/django-developers?hl=en. > >
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