On Tue, Apr 6, 2010 at 8:56 PM, mrts <mrts.py...@gmail.com> wrote:
> James has replaced the content of
>
> http://code.djangoproject.com/wiki/DjangoSpecifications/Core/Threading
>
> with the following disclaimer:
>
> "This page and several others were created by a
> wiki user who was not and is not a member of the
> Django core team. Previous contents of this and
> other similar pages are not and should not be confused
> with Django's own documentation, which remains
> the sole source of official documentation for the Django project."
>
> I personally think that the information on that page [1]
> was both useful and mostly correct, albeit incomplete.
> As such I fail to see why it should be removed --
> the disclaimer given by James pertains to the majority
> of pages in Django wiki; following that reasoning,
> all of them should be removed :).
> (Moreover, the disclaimer is implicit in most wikis' content.)
>
> That doesn't necessarily mean that the page should be
> restored as-is. Something seems to disturb James,
> so the contents should perhaps be updated, amended
> and relocated to a better URL so that he and other members
> of the core would be happy with it instead.
>
> Thoughts?

James spoke with me about this decision at the time, and I completely
agree with and endorse his actions.

While it is true that wikis contain all sorts of information, often
unofficial, the naming of the wiki pages in question --
DjangoSpecifications/Core -- conveyed a *very* strong signal that the
information contained was official in some capacity. Regardless of the
merits of the information on that page, the simple fact remains that
it *isn't* official, and it *wasn't* vetted or edited by anyone in the
core.

It isn't just a matter of moving it somewhere else in the wiki,
either. The simple fact remains that the wiki is housed on
djangoproject.com, and it's impossible to tell what is official and
correct information, and what is not. This doesn't matter so much when
we're discussing the location and participants in an upcoming sprint
or brainstorming design ideas for a proposal, but it matters a great
deal when a page is describing long term architectural decisions or
guidelines.

Django's position on "core specifications" is that:
 * If there is a bug, it should be logged in Trac, and (ideally) fixed
 * If there is some usage guidelines that need to documented, they
should be documented formally and integrated into Django's own
documentation.

If you think there is some valuable information in the wiki pages that
were deleted, then you need to turn that information into either
tickets in Trac, or a draft for addition to the official
documentation. If you think there is some information on that page
that doesn't fit into the official locations that Django currently
provides, then we need to have a meta-discussion around the right
place to house information of that sort.

Yours,
Russ Magee %-)

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