El 28/03/2008, a las 11:50, Michael Radziej escribió:
>
> Hi,
>
>> [ugly stories about other source transformer tools and
>> how they failed deleted]
Not to understimate the student nor the Python community, but think
about it in terms of developer time. TrollTech worked on Qt4 for some
years with multiple developers and couldn't provide a decent automatic
code translator for translating the codebase at build time. On the
other hand, it did something right: provide a starting ground for
projects moving from the old to the new version of the toolkit.
>
> I don't understand all the negative thinking.
>
> Django would probably be a great show case to see whether the planned
> transition to python 3.0 works as it is designed. If things do not
> work out,
> this might still influence the python 3 development.
> I see it as a win-win situation: python developers get a lot of
> feedback
> from a real-world project, and Django might get a lot for shifting
> to python
> 3. The student would learn a lot about both Django and python 3.
>
I see a clear win for Python and the 2to3 tool, but not for Django.
As others have said, Python will change a lot before reaching 3.0,
both in terms of Python code as C API and even Guido expects a five
year transition. So you'll end up with a half baked solution which is
likely to stale. Again, not to understimate the students, but I've
seen lots of semi-finished GSoC projects in the latest years (take a
look at the GPE and Maemo lists, almost none of the students followed
contributing after SoC ended). So, it's really important to define a
project which can be completely done over the summer, and I think this
is not the case.
> And in the end, Django is in no way obliged to take the resulting
> code.
>
What's the point of accepting a project when you aren't thinking in
taking the resulting code?
> No worries 8-)
;-)
Regards,
Alberto
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