Brant Harris wrote: > Reporter.objects.order_by('-lname', 'fname') is incorrect as far as I > can see. The manager cannot hold this state info.
You appear to have misinterpreted the proposal then. There is a limit to how many times the same argument can be repeated... please, reread the thread. I really have no idea what the big brain block on this is. Hint: Every function that would affect the query sql returns a new query set. The query specification of each one is immutable. Robert