Honestly, I'm not really sure what you're after. Yes, everyone's opinion is distinct. I think that's clear from the preceding discussions. I'm just saying it might be productive to focus on what we can and do agree on and act on that.
Far from being ignored, as far as I can tell, most of the conversation (and argument) so far has revolved around the "bundled apps" problem. But no matter which framework gets bundled (or if anything gets bundled at all) the exact same work is going to be necessary on the backend first. So all I'm saying is let's get started on that, and we can all argue about which framework is better once there's some working code in the bag, or at least a concrete plan.
