Hi Nino, you wrote: > My impression is exactly the same, so what you clarified is that > depreciation of users is not Charles' personal mindset but a general > thinking in TDF/LibreOffice community. > This is emphatically not what I said. Our user base is of utmost importance. The sticking point is going from all users, to a single one.
> In my eyes, users - yes, simple users - make a significant > contribution when they just choose to use LibreOffice. So I am > thankful to each single LibreOffice user [...] > I agree. > , while I hear "almost zero" / "just tiny amounts" from your > side. This makes me sad. As user, I feel not appreciated. I did not > know that this is really your position. > But you are not only a user! You contribute back - on mailing lists, QA and elsewhere! The problem is, if LibreOffice would 'only' have users (in the sense that you framed it - people whose contribution is to merely use LibreOffice), this project could no longer exist. It is therefore by design (and also in the user's interest - if they are actually interested in getting improved versions in the future), that contribution to LibreOffice is rewarded, e.g. by being empowered to decide on directions or designs or code, vote for various things including the board, etc. Conversely, it is in the project's vital interest to look after their user base, listen to it (in the aggregate), and grow it. > Therefore I proposed the representative role. But now I withdraw > this proposal as it does not fit to your above-expressed attitude > (which is not mine) towards (your?) users. > Is that really the case? What purpose should this representative role fulfil? If it is taking the user's view when designing features or UI, I maintain my position that the User Experience project is already doing that job. All the best, -- Thorsten -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: [email protected] Problems? http://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: http://listarchives.documentfoundation.org/www/discuss/ All messages sent to this list will be publicly archived and cannot be deleted
