Hey Billinghurst,

We intend for the completion suggester beta feature to be available on all
Wikimedia wikis. It will obviously be a really early prototype, so there
will no doubt be plenty of problems and issues; that's why we want to roll
the beta feature out, so that we can find these! I look forward to you (and
others) on Wikisource testing it and giving us feedback on how it works.

Thanks,
Dan

On 25 November 2015 at 23:00, billinghurst <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dan,
>
> As I broached in an earlier email, the Wikisources have an interest in
> greater scope of the completion suggested / typeahead.
>
> With formal titles of works often starting with "The..." or "A ..." etc.
> having the ability to reach further into a work's title OR to leverage the
> use of {{defaultsort:}} would have advantages.
>
> We are still hampered by long titles in short suggester boxes, especially
> where the key words are at the end and away from the visual  part  of the
> suggestion.
>
> Regards, Billinghurst
>
> On Thu, 26 Nov 2015 12:47 Dan Garry <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As we reach the last month of the quarter, it's a good opportunity for us
>> to reflect on where we want to go for the last part of our remaining time.
>>
>> On the one hand, we're in quite a good place. We're just wrapping up our
>> work on our Q2 goal for search
>> <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Engineering/2015-16_Q2_Goals#Search>,
>> which is excellent! On the other hand, the test showed minimal impact, so
>> our users still aren't seeing the impact of our work. Since we can continue
>> running A/B tests for improving language support relatively cheaply in
>> terms of required engineering time, let's take a look back at what we've
>> done previously and see if we can choose something high impact to work on!
>>
>> The completion suggester is a very promising avenue for us to invest in.
>> As noted in our analysis of the initial test
>> <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T111858>, using the completion
>> suggester instead of prefixsearch significantly reduced the zero results
>> rate. We've not had an impact on this through other efforts, so this is
>> interesting! In order to more thoroughly test the suggester, we can make
>> it a Beta Feature <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T119535>. This will
>> allow editors to opt-in to testing it, and will gather us valuable
>> qualitative feedback about what use cases the completion suggester could
>> support better. The caveat, of course, is that the feedback will be from a
>> specific segment of our user base (users who test beta features) which is
>> more specialised than the intended audience (everyone). That said, the
>> feedback will still be very helpful. There's quite a bit of work to do
>> here; our initial test of the suggester was very hacky, but now that it's
>> proven itself, we can be more rigorous.
>>
>> The other avenue is using page views to influence result ranking. This is
>> in an earlier stage thant he completion suggester, in that it's a
>> relatively unproven approach for us, but it's something that's logical and
>> that we've been interested in for a while. But, we've repeatedly had to
>> deprioritise it for other work. If something is popular, it makes sense to
>> rank it up in search results. Obviously, we do not want to be *too* 
>> aggressive
>> with this in case we create feedback loops, but I think the potential
>> benefits are quite clear if done correctly.
>>
>> I explained a lot of this more briefly in our last standup, but hopefully
>> this should give you all some guidance on where we're going.
>>
>> Thanks, and as always, if there are any questions then please let me know.
>>
>> Dan
>>
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