Hello all, the project is now available here: https://code.qt.io/cgit/playground/qtcleveraudioplugin.git/about/
Feel free to check it out. It was mainly tested on windows and linux (wayland + x11). No guarantees for mac since I stopped at some point after running low on time. best, Dennis ________________________ Dennis Oberst Software Engineer The Qt Company GmbH Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 12489 Berlin, Germany dennis.obe...@qt.io https://www.qt.io Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, Registergericht: Amtsgericht Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B ________________________________ From: Volker Hilsheimer <volker.hilshei...@qt.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2024 3:06 PM To: Dennis Oberst <dennis.obe...@qt.io> Cc: development@qt-project.org <development@qt-project.org> Subject: Re: [Development] Playground Request: ClapInterface Looks good, go ahead with creating the JIRA ticket in QTQAINFRA as per https://wiki.qt.io/Requesting_New_Repositories Cheers, Volker > On 22 Mar 2024, at 11:10, Dennis Oberst via Development > <development@qt-project.org> wrote: > > Hello, > > After some further thought and discussion, I have arrived at the following: > > Project name: qtcleveraudioplugin > Description: "Qt Integration with the CLever Audio Plugin standard" > Namespace: QtClap > Responsible persons: Dennis Oberst > > I will not import existing history. > > If there are any opinions or questions, please speak up. > > best, > > Dennis > > ________________________ > Dennis Oberst > Software Engineer > > The Qt Company GmbH > Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 > 12489 Berlin, Germany > dennis.obe...@qt.io > https://www.qt.io > > Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, > Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, > Registergericht: Amtsgericht > Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B > > From: Development <development-boun...@qt-project.org> on behalf of Dennis > Oberst via Development <development@qt-project.org> > Sent: Tuesday, March 19, 2024 12:12 PM > To: Jean-Michaël Celerier <jeanmichael.celer...@gmail.com>; Volker Hilsheimer > <volker.hilshei...@qt.io> > Cc: development@qt-project.org <development@qt-project.org> > Subject: Re: [Development] Playground Request: ClapInterface > Hey, > > Indeed, there is some ambiguity involved with "CLAP". There is also the Rust > crate "clap", which is a CLI parsing tool (https://github.com/clap-rs/clap). > However, I would expect that any interested soul would read the README or > docs where we would resolve the whole ambiguity. Also the word wouldn't be > there on it's own as it would be a part of the namespace that we apply to the > contained classes, e.g.: QClapNote, QClapParameter. > > I agree with you, Volker, that 'Interface' is not accurate. What would be > more fitting is the name 'Client,' since it's the client-side implementation > of the gRPC API provided by clap-rci. Note that 'rci' stands for 'Remote > Control Interface'. I'm not a fan of spelling it out since it will become too > lengthy in code: QCleverAudioPluginClient or QCleverAudioPluginInterface. > What about: > > Project name: qtclapclient > Description: "Qt Integration with the CLever Audio Plugin standard" > Namespace: QClap > > In its current (naive) form, it consists of: > > - ClapControls: specialized and new controls (Dials, NoteKeys) that are > typically required for building audio plugins. > - ClapInterface: communication with the server-side through QtGrpc. > > So we would have the QClapControls (or perhaps later QClapQuick) and > QClapClient. > > As pointed out by Jean-Michaël: > > > (It's) a recurrent topic in audio conferences and circles. > > It's establishing itself in the audio-industry and is currently a hot topic > running under the name 'clap'. Any deviation would generate confusion. We > could think about a more general name like "qtaudioplugin", since CLAP also > provides wrappers to many other audio plugin formats (VST3, AU ...) but I'm > not sure I like that. Given that it's part of a prefix here it appears to be > fine for me. > > Best, > > Dennis > > ________________________ > Dennis Oberst > Software Engineer > > The Qt Company GmbH > Erich-Thilo-Str. 10 > 12489 Berlin, Germany > dennis.obe...@qt.io > https://www.qt.io > > Geschäftsführer: Mika Pälsi, > Juha Varelius, Jouni Lintunen > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Berlin, > Registergericht: Amtsgericht > Charlottenburg, HRB 144331 B > > From: Jean-Michaël Celerier <jeanmichael.celer...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, March 18, 2024 9:44 PM > To: Volker Hilsheimer <volker.hilshei...@qt.io> > Cc: Dennis Oberst <dennis.obe...@qt.io>; development@qt-project.org > <development@qt-project.org> > Subject: Re: [Development] Playground Request: ClapInterface > You don't often get email from jeanmichael.celer...@gmail.com. Learn why > this is important > As someone involved in the audio ecosystem, the Clap plug-in API is quickly > becoming an industry standard, > is now supported by multiple digital audio workstation software (Reaper, > Bitwig, qtractor) and a recurrent topic in audio conferences and circles. > It has its own wikipedia page: > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CLever_Audio_Plug-in > > - 12 pages of products using CLAP on KVR: > https://www.kvraudio.com/plugins/the-newest-plugins/clap-plugins - > https://github.com/free-audio/clap > - https://u-he.com/community/clap/ > - https://lwn.net/Articles/893048/ > - https://www.sweetwater.com/insync/clap-the-new-clever-audio-plug-in-format/ > - https://www.martinic.com/en/blog/clap-audio-plugin-format > - https://bedroomproducersblog.com/2022/08/29/clap-plugin-format/ > > > Never heard of the other one. > > On Mon, Mar 18, 2024 at 12:11 PM Volker Hilsheimer via Development > <development@qt-project.org> wrote: > > On 18 Mar 2024, at 12:27, Dennis Oberst via Development > > <development@qt-project.org> wrote: > > > > Hello all, > > > > I'd like to request a new playground repository to continue the development > > of the "Clap Interface," a client-side library that uses QtGrpc to provide > > integration with the CLAP audio plugin standard, ultimately allowing to > > build audio plugins with Qt user interfaces. > > > > Description: Qt interface for the CLAP audio-plugin standard > > Project name: qtclapinterface > > > > The Clap Interface emerged from the research concluded in my thesis, which > > you can find and read here. As its counterpart, there is the 'clap-rci' > > library, which provides the server-side integration. I won't go into too > > much detail, but it works through headless audio processing and remote GUIs > > to achieve integration with Qt. You can find it here. > > > > Given the time constraint of 6 months for writing 2 libraries and a thesis, > > they have some rough edges. Nevertheless, they proved my point: Qt > > integration with audio plugins is possible! I'm currently in the process of > > rewriting those libraries in my free time, but I would still like to have > > this version openly available. > > > > Suggestions/Opinions/Ideas, I take them all. > > > > best, > > > > Dennis > > Hey Dennis, > > Nice, seems like a cool use case of gRPC for building out-of-process plugins! > > My knee-jerk reaction is that it might be a good idea to spell this out as > QCleverAudioInterface, because > > https://github.com/LAION-AI/CLAP > > which, while also “something audio”, is completely not related, so perhaps > better to be verbose. > > And I’m not entirely sure that “Interface” is the right word... since it > seems to be more an integration or bridge, perhaps? > > Volker > > -- > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development > -- > Development mailing list > Development@qt-project.org > https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development
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