On Wed, Feb 19, 2020 at 10:43:17AM +0000, Volker Hilsheimer wrote: > Even when doing development (as opposed to the pointy-haired work), I > benefit from having tools that help me to maintain a work-in-progress > limit, that allow me to see what state the work someone else is doing > is in (because I might depend on it or just be curios about it), or > allow me to signal to customers waiting for the fix that they might > want to have a look at a proposed change, even if they don't have an > account on Gerrit.
*Customers*, *without an Account*, to *look* at changes on Gerrit? Sometimes I really regret having dropped out of university before finishing basic maths. > The Qt Project defines “code review” as an explicit step that > contributions have to go through. Correct. > Given that it takes a substantial amount of time to get things > through review, A review, even a *proper review* by *your standards*, does not have to "take substantial amounts of time". It's technically completely feasible (and I guess one could dig out practically examples) where an issue goes from "Someone mentioned a problem on IRC" to "Fix is integrated" in less then five minutes. The undeniable fact that it actually *does* take a substantial amount of time *in a lot of cases* is not the result of having "not enough JIRA states" but actually that of a lot of causes, none of which that I am aware are of of the sort that would benefit from changes to the JIRA process. > I think it would make the JIRA-model of how work happens a bit more > useful if it would reflect the way that work actually happens. That's an interesting puzzle to solve when "the way that work actually happens" is actually "outside JIRA, for a reason" And that happens to be rather normal when e.g. - the issue is not coming via JIRA, like normal reviews, - the issue is urgent so JIRA would be too slow to use, - the issue is small, so the overhead would be prohibitive compared to the cost of the actual work. - the issue is big, so wind direction would change to often before this is done. Andre' > _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org https://lists.qt-project.org/listinfo/development