On Friday, 26 October 2018 12:25:50 PDT Jason H wrote: > Thiago, > > Here's a link that kinda puts it together: > https://lulz.com/linux-devs-threaten-killswitch-coc-controversy-1252/ > (Scroll to "The Controversy" and the "rape apologist" Sage Sharp tweet)
I know of the controversy and find Sage's tweet to be of extremely poor judgment, given the situation that originally caused them to find Ted Ts'o an apologist. I know both and I fail to see how the actions could have led to such an escalation. This is very unfortunate. I agree with the tweet replies quoted in the article: the Sage's tweet was out of bounds and a violation of the CoC. Fortunately, they are not part of the kernel community anymore, so the Linux TAB does not have to do anything. The post says: "1. Insertion of the CoC into other projects has heralded witch hunts where good contributors are removed over trivial matters or even events that happened a long time ago." There's a difference between triggering witch hunts and successful removal of contributors. The fact that the CoC and a reporting mechanism exist can lead to their being abused. But I stand by my argument that the final decision is left to existing, trusted members of the project's community and that stops the abuse from getting out of hand. > I didn't realize this was a thing of "defeat". I have concerns, based on > actual events, that I want resolved. That's fine. I was reacting to your "my mind is made up", which it makes you sound like you will not change your position and no compromise is possible, short of not adopting a CoC at all. > I do respectfully disagree on whether or not an author is relevant to > considering a work. In this case the author has a track record of attacking > members in open source projects and arguing against meritocracy. Is the > text good? There is a lot I agree with, but there are things in it that > cross the line for me. I think we can come to an agreement, but not with > invoking the Covenant in its current form. Please also note that the attack against meritocracy is more nuanced than it appears at first sight. I don't have more information on this -- I will go inform myself about it -- so until then I will not comment. -- Thiago Macieira - thiago.macieira (AT) intel.com Software Architect - Intel Open Source Technology Center _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development