17.10.2017, 10:17, "Martin Smith" <martin.sm...@qt.io>:
> +1
>
> I am a member of the Qt documentation team, and I am often included as a 
> reviewer for code changes that also include changes to qdoc comments. I 
> always assume I am meant to review only the documentation, so if the 
> documentation is ok, I give the change a +1 and add a comment that I only 
> reviewed the documentation.
>
> Is this the right way to do it? Maybe it should be formalized in the system.

FWIW it's possible to teach Gerrit to require +2 from someone from doc team if 
commit message has "documentation change" tag [1], but require another +2 to 
allow submit.

[1] Enforceable with sanity bot, or maybe can even be done automatically.

>
> martin
> ________________________________________
> From: Development <development-bounces+martin.smith=qt...@qt-project.org> on 
> behalf of Viktor Engelmann <viktor.engelm...@qt.io>
> Sent: Friday, October 13, 2017 1:04:46 PM
> To: development@qt-project.org
> Subject: [Development] Speeding up the review process (was: PostgreSQL cross 
> compile for Pi)
>
> On the [Interest] mailing list there was a discussion about the 
> review-process taking to long and we also had multiple discussions about that 
> at the world summit. I have complained about this myself, so I would like to 
> start a new thread and collect your thoughts and ideas on how to improve the 
> situation.
>
> My suggestions would be
>
>   1. Allow approving your own commits under certain circumstances. examples:
>      * when you only changed minor things like a variable name (except in 
> public API), a string, a comment or qdoc entry
>      * when you already had a +2 and only changed minor things like a 
> variable name, a string, a comment or qdoc entry (or more generally: when you 
> already had a +2 and only did something that is also on this list :-D )
>      * when you only increased a timeout in an autotest. Increasing timeouts 
> is a safe change - it can only solve false negatives and false positives, but 
> not create false positives or false negatives.
>      * or more general: when you only made an autotest harder to pass - like 
> adding a Q_VERIFY, Q_COMPARE, etc.
>      * when the change is something auto-generated - like you just updated 
> plugins.qmltypes using qmlplugindump
>      * when you only changed something in accordance to the guidelines - like 
> Q_DECL_OVERRIDE -> override
>      * when you have a certain count of +1's from people who have approver 
> rights
>   2. Towards that last point: I think many of us are afraid to get blamed for 
> +2'ing something that causes problems later (introduces a new bug or so), but 
> as far as I have seen, nobody gets blamed for such problems, so we should not 
> be THAT afraid of approving something. Also, don't forget that there is still 
> the CI to get past!
>   3. Remember that brain-cycles are far more expensive than CPU cycles - so 
> when in doubt, rather test-run something on the CI than make a human think 
> about whether the CI "would" accept it. If that causes CI outages, we need to 
> buy more CI machines. It is just a naive fallacy to "save" CI expenses by 
> assigning the CI's work to employees who are much more expensive.
>   4. I don't think we need to be as paranoid towards contributions from our 
> own employees as we need to be towards external contributions.
>   5. Set a deadline for criticism on the general approach to a change. Too 
> often I have had the situation that I uploaded a patch, then we debated the 
> qdoc entries, variable names, method names, etc FOR MONTHS - and when I 
> thought we were finally wrapping up and I could soon submit it, someone else 
> chimes in and says "this should be done completely differently". Even if the 
> person is right - they should have said that months earlier - before I wasted 
> all that valuable time on variable names, compliance with qdoc guidelines, 
> etc.
> In earlier discussions I have been told that such a deadline would have to be 
> long, because someone who might have an opinion might be on vacation. IMHO, 
> this doesn't count, because a) you can still make an exception to the rule in 
> such a situation and b) by that logic you should never approve anything, 
> because we also might hire a new employee in 10 years who might have an 
> opinion.
>
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