As for embedded Linux it’s not only the build and deployment itself (I usually 
have a separate VM for each customer and board), but much more the nature of 
the device itself. On the target all „real“ interfaces and features are 
enabled. On the desktop I disable them to speed things up and/or to compensate 
missing hardware - which is also really useful for automated tests.

Beste Grüße / Best regards,

Alexander Nassian

> Am 29.11.2016 um 08:42 schrieb Jake Petroules <jake.petrou...@qt.io>:
> 
> I don't know what sort of cross build and deployment environment you've set 
> up, but I've worked with Qt Creator developing on actual embedded Linux 
> hardware and the code-deploy-test cycle is lightning fast; no slower than 
> desktop at all.
> 
> iOS may be slower in particular due to our suboptimal build process 
> implementation on that platform (and thus recommending that you use the iOS 
> Simulator instead might not be a viable alternative), but I at least have 
> never noticed any problems with slowness here so I'm not sure what you're 
> referring to.
> 
> Android, I'm not sure. Again, possibly due to the suboptimal build process 
> implementation, but at least the emulators are blazing fast these days 
> compared to the original SDK back in 2010 or so.
> 
>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 11:37 PM, Alexander Nassian 
>> <nass...@bitshift-dynamics.de> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t get the use case for having *only* iOS installed on my system. As 
>> well as for example only a cross Qt for an embedded device (iOS is 
>> practically the same thing). The normal development cycle should be (at 
>> least in my opinion) mainly develop on the desktop and check on the target 
>> in a regular manner. The cross build and deployment is enormously slower 
>> than on the desktop (which is ok with a cycle as I described), so why would 
>> I ever *only* use the cross build and deployment? Same thing for Android. 
>> Same thing for any embedded Linux target, but in contrast to Android and iOS 
>> we don’t deliver prebuilt binaries for them.
>> 
>> Beste Grüße / Best regards,
>> Alexander Nassian
>> 
>>> Am 29.11.2016 um 08:24 schrieb Jani Heikkinen <jani.heikki...@qt.io>:
>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Development [mailto:development-
>>>> bounces+jani.heikkinen=qt...@qt-project.org] On Behalf Of Jake Petroules
>>>> Sent: maanantaina 28. marraskuuta 2016 20.23
>>>> To: Alexander Blasche <alexander.blas...@qt.io>
>>>> Cc: development@qt-project.org; releas...@qt-project.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [Development] Qt 5.9
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 7:40 AM, Alexander Blasche
>>>> <alexander.blas...@qt.io> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ok, let's summarize and restate the package list for Qt 5.9 based on the
>>>> comments provided on this mail thread. The list describes the delta to Qt 
>>>> 5.8
>>>> packages:
>>>>> 
>>>>> * For macOS we drop 10.9 and support 10.10, 10.11 & 10.12
>>>>> * For iOS we drop 7.x and support 8.x, 9.x, 10.x
>>>> 
>>>> * For tvOS we drop 9.x and support 10.x
>>>> * For watchOS we drop 2.x and support 3.x
>>>> 
>>>>> * MinGW remains 5.3 using 32 bit
>>>>> * Add MSVC 2017 64bit desktop
>>>>> * Add MSVC 2017 UWP (x64, x86, armv7)
>>>>> * Drop MSVC 2013 x86
>>>>> * Drop MSVC 2013 for WinRT/WinPhone & MSVC 2013 for WinRT 8.1 and
>>>> WinPhone 8.1
>>>>> * Drop standalone macOS Android installer; One having iOS & Android
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, let's not, and instead drop the massive macOS+iOS+Android
>>>> installer in favor of an iOS-only installer.
>>> 
>>> Is it really so that users of iOS installer needs only iOS binaries and 
>>> nothing for desktop side? 
>>> 
>>> In this case I agree this might be the optimal solution but this doesn't 
>>> decrease amount of our installers and that's why I prefer just dropping 
>>> that one & keep those two old ones:
>>> - one just for macOS + another one for macOS, iOS & Android
>>> 
>>> br,
>>> Jani
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> * For Windows Android start doing Android Windows build with MinGW53
>>>>> * Start supporting QNX 7.0
>>>>> 
>>>>> --
>>>>> Alex
>>>>> 
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