Hey Joao, On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 6:04 PM, <joao.abeca...@nokia.com> wrote: > The first one introduces a Q namespace, which replaces the Q prefix in > Qt5. The second patch drops the prefix in class names. This brings the > C++ API more in line with the QML/JavaScript one and will hopefully help > move all remaining C++ developers to JavaScript. > Do we really want to force all devs to move to JavaScript? From the feedback I'm seeing around the community and companies that do professional Qt development (Nokia included ;)) C++ is still the serious way to do thing, while QML is for the UI and UX.
If We're already in the state where Qt's C++ interface can be replaced with the QML one, then this makes a lot of sense. If this is not the situation, then I suggest to have a transition period where which both the namespace and the Q* in class name are still supported. I imagine there are quite some Qt users who'd like to leverage the performance improvements in Qt5, without having to rewrite every single piece of code in QML. I also understand that startup times for QML are somewhat long, even through that has been improved. > Still pending are patches to: > > - propagate the change to the various modules; > - drop the q prefix from file names > - update fixqt4headers script to automatically fix user code > - rename the Q::Qt namespace to Q::t > what does the 't' in Q::t stands for? And right, this is an intrusive change that could bring a lot of rebuilding to existing software as per your list of pending patches ;) Even if fixqt4headers fixes everything automatically as per this change. Does it? :-) > While we're at this, it would be good to improve our interoperability > with C++11. I have another patch in the works that drops camelCase, in > favor of the standardized names_with_underscores. The extra separation > between words will be welcomed by those of us that use small fonts and > ALL-CAPS editors. Agreed! What can we do to automate legacy code support in this regard as well? > > We'll need a script to fix user code. Ideally, user classes and APIs > also get ported to the new style. (I hear there's ongoing work for a > refactoring tool in Creator, which should land Real Soon Now (tm)) > Ah, nice does this answer my previous question? > Again, given the impact these changes will have, I urge everyone to > pitch in, review and help bring this effort to good harbor. > > Qt 5 is going to be revolutionary. > Qt has already been revolutionary! But I wonder how far QML is from having similar startup times to C++ Qt, and when everything you can do from C++ will be possible from within QML. > Cheers, > > > João > > PS - Help with testing alpha packages is also welcome ;-) > If I manage to find the time (is always a short) I'll try to give it some testing as well. /me wonders if it can be tested using Neccesitas already. Thank you for the hard work, I salute you the Qt team. The rate of improvements and changes in the last couple of months have been revolutionary by its own regard. -Sivan _______________________________________________ Development mailing list Development@qt-project.org http://lists.qt-project.org/mailman/listinfo/development