Hello,

> On 5 Jun 2025, at 12:55, Adolf Belka <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> On 05/06/2025 12:42, Michael Tremer wrote:
>> Hello Adolf,
>> If the Prime appliance is not suitable for testing any more, I am sure we 
>> can find you something else.
> 
> It can still be used for testing and even for some bug development. It is 
> just that with the IPS enabled, that uses 1.4GB on its own so the memory 
> usage is around 88% to 94%.

I have noticed that Suricata has become very memory hungry recently, too. I 
think it is since we upgraded to version 7, but I did not verify this.

> So doing something like a change to the IPS rulesets that are enabled ends up 
> going into something like 20% swap usage and trying to access the Prime via 
> SSH has ended up at 35% swap usage just now when I tested it.
> The impact of the swap usage is just that everything ends up going very slow.

This appliance is already very slow and the disk-on-module is not super fast 
either. This is not fun to use.

> Disabling the IPS resolves the swap usage because the memory level is then 
> down at 50% or less.
> 
>> What would you need?
> 
> I don't really know. I find it good to be able to do testing on both vm and 
> physical hardware and the definite benefit of the Prime is that it has a wifi 
> connection so I can test out the hostapd element of IPFire, which I can't on 
> the vm systems.
> 
> I have thought on and off about replacing my "production" old mini appliance 
> with one of the new mini appliances and then I could use the old mini 
> appliance for testing etc although it doesn't have a wifi connection.

We can fix that. I am sure I have a spare WiFi module somewhere around. Are you 
using WiFi in your production appliance?

> Until I get to a point to getting the new mini appliance the Prime definitely 
> is of benefit to my testing.
> 
> Maybe I use the vm systems for IPS e\valuations and disable it on the Prime. 
> That would probably help with the memory and performance.
> That's a good idea. I will give that a test out and see how things go.

Best,
-Michael

> Regards,
> Adolf.
> 
>> -Michael
>>> On 5 Jun 2025, at 10:42, Adolf Belka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> On 04/06/2025 20:25, Tim Zakharov wrote:
>>>> Adolf,
>>>> If you have access to a 4GB DDR3 SODIMM (even if you temporarily grab one 
>>>> from an old laptop or borrow from a colleague), you could try installing 
>>>> it.  I wouldn't be surprised if the system booted up and either supported 
>>>> the full 4GB or limited it to 2.44GB, but worked nonetheless.  It won't 
>>>> hurt anything to try.  Worst case, the system does not power up until you 
>>>> replace the original SODIMM.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for the suggestions Tim. Unfortunately didn't help. My oldest laptop 
>>> turns out to have DDR2 and the SODIMM's are 2GB anyway.
>>> My newest laptop has DDR4, so not usable.
>>> My netbook does have DDR3 but with only a 2GB SODIMM.
>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> On 6/4/2025 1:18 PM, Michael Tremer wrote:
>>>>> Hello Adolf,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hmm, this might be difficult. I remember that this processor was a little 
>>>>> bit limited in how much RAM it supports.
>>>>> 
>>>>> However, the Intel Ark says max. 2.44 GiB 
>>>>> (https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/sku/58916/intel-atom-processor-n2600-1m-cache-1-6-ghz/specifications.html).
>>>>> 
>>>>> I am not sure how to put this in, but generally that seems to be not much 
>>>>> higher than two.
>>> 
>>> I think you are right.
>>> 
>>> I am only using it as a Testing evaluation system and as a system to do bug 
>>> development work on.
>>> 
>>> So I think I will just have to accept that the memory might be used up a 
>>> lot and periodically it might go into swap use. I can live with that.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Adolf.
>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Best,
>>>>> -Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3 Jun 2025, at 20:15, Adolf Belka <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Arne and everyone,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In the monthly conf call I forgot to ask this question.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have an old IPFire Prime system which has a 2GB sodimm memory card 
>>>>>> installed. The memory is very close to fully utilised so that 
>>>>>> periodically the swap space gets used for memory.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I would like to buy some larger memory for it but I need to know if I 
>>>>>> can use 8GB cards with it or if it is limited to 4GB as the largest 
>>>>>> memory size that is usable (or worst case, that I have to stay with the 
>>>>>> 2GB card if that is the biggest supported).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyone know what the max ram memory that can be supported by the Prime 
>>>>>> systems is?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Adolf.
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
> 
> 


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