Am 02.06.22 um 16:19 schrieb Joel Sherrill:

On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 8:58 AM Christian MAUDERER <christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de <mailto:christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de>> wrote:
    Am 02.06.22 um 15:49 schrieb Gedare Bloom:
     > On Thu, Jun 2, 2022 at 2:28 AM Sebastian Huber
     > <sebastian.hu...@embedded-brains.de
    <mailto:sebastian.hu...@embedded-brains.de>> wrote:
     >>
     >> On 02/06/2022 09:27, Christian MAUDERER wrote:
     >>>
     >>> Am 01.06.22 um 14:46 schrieb Gedare Bloom:
     >>>> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 6:21 AM Christian Mauderer
     >>>> <christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de
    <mailto:christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de>> wrote:
     >>>>>
     >>>>> Typical embedded systems don't have that much memory. Reduce
    the buffer
     >>>>> size to something more sensible for the usual type of
    application.
     >>>>> ---
     >>>>>    freebsd/sys/dev/ffec/if_ffec.c | 8 ++++++++
     >>>>>    1 file changed, 8 insertions(+)
     >>>>>
     >>>>> diff --git a/freebsd/sys/dev/ffec/if_ffec.c
     >>>>> b/freebsd/sys/dev/ffec/if_ffec.c
     >>>>> index 47c0f770..4c1e147b 100644
     >>>>> --- a/freebsd/sys/dev/ffec/if_ffec.c
     >>>>> +++ b/freebsd/sys/dev/ffec/if_ffec.c
     >>>>> @@ -139,9 +139,17 @@ static struct ofw_compat_data
    compat_data[] = {
     >>>>>    /*
     >>>>>     * Driver data and defines.  The descriptor counts must be
    a power
     >>>>> of two.
     >>>>>     */
     >>>>> +#ifndef __rtems__
     >>>>>    #define        RX_DESC_COUNT   512
     >>>>> +#else /* __rtems__ */
     >>>>> +#define        RX_DESC_COUNT   64
     >>>>> +#endif /* __rtems__ */
     >>>>
     >>>> Do we need some way to control this parameter? Or, how will this
     >>>> appear if it breaks something?
     >>>
     >>> I don't expect that there will be any problems. But I can take
    a look
     >>> how I can make that a parameter.
     >>
     >> Can we please keep this a compile time constant as it is.  The 64
     >> descriptors should be more than enough.
     >>
     > I don't mind the reduction of the constant, but it would be good to
     > predict what behavior might indicate this was exceeded. I guess it
     > should be some kind of errno on an allocation request though? So it
     > should be fine, but if a user hits this limit, I guess they have
     > pretty limited options to overcome it.

    Reducing the limit won't cause errors. It will only means that if you
    flood the target with network packets, it will cache less packets and
    start dropping them earlier. That means:

    On a short packet burst, some packets will be dropped and (for TCP)
    some
    have to be re-transmitted. So for short bursts it can be a slight
    disadvantage.

    On a constant overload situation: It doesn't really make a difference
    because the target wouldn't be able to process the packages anyway. It
    might even is an advantage because the processor doesn't have to
    process
    packets that are already outdated and maybe re-transmitted.


How much RAM does this save versus having control over the size of
UDP and TCP RX/TX buffers like we had in the legacy stack? I recall
being able to control the various buffer sizes saved a LOT of memory
on applications I used these parameters on.

There we had four configuration values. Any chance this has a hint
in FreeBSD now or we can provide the same tuning?

         rtems_set_udp_buffer_sizes(
           rtems_bsdnet_config.udp_tx_buf_size,
           rtems_bsdnet_config.udp_rx_buf_size
         );

         rtems_set_tcp_buffer_sizes(
           rtems_bsdnet_config.tcp_tx_buf_size,
           rtems_bsdnet_config.tcp_rx_buf_size
         );

Are you sure that this is the same buffer? The parameter in this patch 
is a driver specific ring buffer of rx descriptors. The parameter that 
you mention sounds more like a general network stack buffer (although I 
have to say that I don't know these functions of the old stack).
Regarding the sizes:

The driver allocates one mbuf for each buffer. It's a bit tricky to tell exactly how big one MBUF is. FreeBSD does a lot of abstraction there. But a debugger tells me that after the initialization one buffer is:
  sc->rxbuf_map[0].mbuf->m_len = 2048

That means that I reduced the buffers that are cached in the driver for sending data from 512 * 2kiB = 1MiB to 64 * 2kiB = 128kiB for the receive direction. Note that our default size for all mbufs in the stack is 8MiB (RTEMS_BSD_ALLOCATOR_DOMAIN_PAGE_MBUF_DEFAULT). So 1MiB is a relevant part of that. And that's only for one direction!
The Tx buffers only have some management information allocated. They 
will get buffers as soon as there is something to send. But if the 
device can't send fast enough to get rid of the data, it will be most 
likely a similar amount of memory.
Again: That's only the buffers in the driver. Not any buffers on higher 
layers.
Best regards

Christian

--joel


    Best regards

    Christian

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