Hi Joe, just a brief note from holidays:
Am 09.09.20 um 15:19 schrieb Joel Sherrill: > All system administration on rtems.org <http://rtems.org> is volunteer. > That by itself is the > biggest barrier. We've talked collecting funds through a foundation. How can we push that to at least partly professionalize the administration? IMHO we are stuck with "I want to do X when I find proper time for it". Collecting (constant?) funds may solve this a bit. Other open source projects made this move quite successfully. wkr, Thomas. > > --joel > > Ph > Best regards, > > Jan > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: devel <devel-boun...@rtems.org > <mailto:devel-boun...@rtems.org>> On Behalf Of Christian Mauderer > > Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:24 AM > > To: RTEMS Devel RTEMS <devel@rtems.org <mailto:devel@rtems.org>> > > Subject: We are loosing patches > > > > Hello, > > > > triggered by a comment from Chris here > > > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/users/2020-September/067873.html > > > > I started to take a look at patches from non maintainers and write > after > > approval maintainers for some months: I think in May and June we > lost at > > least one or two of the following ones: > > > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/059751.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/059771.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/059772.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-May/059773.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-June/060125.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-June/060231.html > > https://lists.rtems.org/pipermail/devel/2020-June/060235.html > > > > It's a bit hard to see exactly whether a later version has been > added with a > > different subject, merged with another patch or just has been > rejected for > > some reason. That's another problem with our current system. > > > > I think we start to loose valuable contributions due to that. I > also found some > > patches where just no one responded because no one noted it and the > > person sending the patch had to ping it some time later. That's > not really > > encouraging to continue participating for new contributors. > > > > I even lost track of some of my own patches in the past and found > out about > > a month later that I should have pushed them long ago. > > > > Maybe it would be a good idea to start at least discussing whether > we should > > change something to avoid these problems. I think our current > system has > > two main problems: > > > > 1. All patches go to one single devel mailing list. It's sometimes > hard to see > > which patches are for what repository. And small patches tend to > just vanish > > between lot of other mails. > > > > 2. We have a big problem seeing which patch sets are done, which > are in the > > middle of a discussion and which are rejected. > > > > A lot of other projects use software to solve these problems. > Linux uses > > "patchwork" for it since a long time (which needs one mailing list per > > project). Most other projects use systems with pull requests like > github or a > > self hosted gitlab for that kind of stuff. > > > > Maybe we should think about following these examples and go one > step to > > more modern software development too? What do you think? > > > > Best regards > > > > Christian > > -- > > -------------------------------------------- > > embedded brains GmbH > > Herr Christian Mauderer > > Dornierstr. 4 > > D-82178 Puchheim > > Germany > > email: christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de > <mailto:christian.maude...@embedded-brains.de> > > Phone: +49-89-18 94 741 - 18 > > Fax: +49-89-18 94 741 - 08 > > PGP: Public key available on request. > > > > Diese Nachricht ist keine geschäftliche Mitteilung im Sinne des EHUG. > > _______________________________________________ > > devel mailing list > > devel@rtems.org <mailto:devel@rtems.org> > > http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > devel@rtems.org <mailto:devel@rtems.org> > http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > > > _______________________________________________ > devel mailing list > devel@rtems.org > http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/devel > -- -------------------------------------------- embedded brains GmbH Thomas Doerfler Dornierstr. 4 D-82178 Puchheim Germany email: thomas.doerf...@embedded-brains.de Phone: +49-89-18 94 741-12 Fax: +49-89-18 94 741-09 PGP: Public key available on request. For our privacy statement, see https://embedded-brains.de/en/data-privacy-statement/ _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@rtems.org http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
