Ping.
On 30/04/18 08:26, Sebastian Huber wrote:
On 17/04/18 12:30, Chris Johns wrote:
On 26/3/18 7:09 pm, Sebastian Huber wrote:
On 26/03/18 00:50, Chris Johns wrote:
On 14/03/2018 17:20, Sebastian Huber wrote:
On 13/03/18 22:58, Chris Johns wrote:
On 09/03/2018 19:55, Sebastian Huber wrote:
On 06/11/17 10:03, Sebastian Huber wrote:
On 26/10/17 08:22, Sebastian Huber wrote:
Please review this patch carefully. It adds a new chapter "ARM
Board Support
Packages" following the "ARM Specific Information" chapter. It
adds a
template structure for other BSPs.
Where should we place common BSP configuration options like
BSP_PRESS_KEY_FOR_RESET? We probably don't want to add a copy
and paste
version to every BSP section.
Any comments with respect to the BSP documentation? It makes
little sense to
start with this work if the general direction is unclear.
The insufficient and user unfriendly BSP documentation is still
a big issue
from
my point of view. I think it is one of be biggest obstacles to
get started
with
RTEMS. The BSP documentation should be part of a sphinx based
rtems-docs
manual.
How do we get the large number of BSP_OPTS parameters out of the
BSPs and into
suitable documentation? I am reluctant to support fragmented or
partial
approaches to solving this problem, I feel the "project" or
effect needs to
accept _all_ BSPs need to be covered. This is a community effort
that needs
some
leadership and ownership.
It is a difficult area because:
1. The overlap to device TRMs and yet wanting to provide some
self contained
information for a device knowledgeable user.
2. How is it maintained and checked? Reviews of patches require
related doc
patches?
3. Changing the build system, the waf build Amar created changes
the way
BSP_OPTS are handled requiring clear definition with ranges and
other factors
and that could be annotated with suitable documentation allowing
automatic
generation. Do we push for funding for this effort and deal with
it then?
For BSP documentation you need to know the hardware and the BSP in
detail. I
think we can only do this step by step and should focus on the
BSPs that are
still in use and maintained. We need a clear concept of the
desired BSP
documentation, so that it is easy for new contributors to fix the
documentation
of their BSP of interest. A build configuration command line help
for BSP
options would be nice, but I think this is optional. I would
remove the BSP
options documentation in configure.ac for BSPs which document the
options in a
manual. If we want to provide build configuration command line
help, then we
should generate it from some documentation master and use it for
the command
line help and the manual. This is some extra effort. It is
probably in the range
of several man weeks to update the documentation of all BSPs.
Agreed and this will need to change any way. A waf build system
would bring all
these option out to the top level which is a important. They are
hidden at the
moment which is painful.
The manual should have one level for the architectures, one level
for the BSPs
and one for the BSP details. I would not use more than three
levels in a PDF
document. Do we want to create a dedicated BSP manual or merge it
into an
existing manual (which one and how)?
Can the BSP and Driver Guide be used or do you think we need
something new?
The BSP and Driver Guide contains mostly information for a BSP and
driver
developer.
If we use four levels, we could add this to the User Manual (it uses
already
four levels), e.g.
Board Support Packages (BSPs)
-> Architecture
-> BSP
-> Some stuff
See attached file.
The PDF file looks good. I am OK with this but I would like Joel to
respond.
Joel, what is your point of view?
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