Ralf, I agree that a "Community Code of Conduct" might be formulated that enables it to be used as a means of oppression. But we are talking about a certain recommended document code. Reading it I do not see any request which seem inappropriate. And "breaking" the code would not mean to be silently thrown out of the community, it would just start a discussion on staying within reasonable behaviour.
So, can you clarify, noting the parts in Joel's recommended "RTEMS Code of Conduct", which you fear to be used sa a means of oppression? If I look at the chapter headlines and their content, I don't see anything - Be considerate - Be respectful - Be collaborative - Be pragmatic - Support others in the community - Get support from others in the community Which point actually makes you fear something? wkr, Thomas. Am 15.11.2014 17:01, schrieb Ralf Corsepius: > On 11/12/2014 08:49 PM, Thomas Doerfler wrote: >> >> What I don't understand in your posting: On the one hand you mention, >> that the topics of the proposed CCoC have never been an issue on the >> RTEMS list and on the other hand you point out, that other CCoCs on >> other lists may have made some users leave the list. > > Experience tells, in longer terms "project leaders" tend to > instrumentalize "Code of Conducts" as a means of oppression and > suppression, just to silence opposition. > >> Do you think one of the porposed CCoC's topics would make people leave >> this project? > > Yes, definitely - CoCs endanger people to being banned from lists > because of having expressing opions. To not expose themselves to this > danger, they often simply do not express their opinions. They implement > a climate of uncertainty and fear. > > This is counterproductive to OSS-projects. OSS-projects need open minds, > and needs tolerance - not censorship. > >> I see no harm in the CCoC, and always appreciate clear words. > IMO, "clear words" and a CCoC are self-contractory and mutally exclusive. > > Ralf > > -- -------------------------------------------- embedded brains GmbH Thomas Doerfler Dornierstr. 4 D-82178 Puchheim Germany email: thomas.doerf...@embedded-brains.de Phone: +49-89-18 94 741-12 Fax: +49-89-18 94 741-09 PGP: Public key available on request. Diese Nachricht ist keine geschäftliche Mitteilung im Sinne des EHUG. _______________________________________________ devel mailing list devel@rtems.org http://lists.rtems.org/mailman/listinfo/devel
