On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 7:02 PM Steven A. Falco <[email protected]> wrote: > > On 9/13/23 05:23 PM, Neal Gompa wrote: > > Right. And I want to stress we are not dropping support for X11 > > applications. Anything running as an X client in a desktop should work > > as it has before. > > I'm not convinced KiCad will work in that scenario, so please let me > summarize what I've read here, and please correct me if I have any of this > wrong. > > The thing being removed is "Plasma(X11)", which is a native X11 stack; i.e. > no Wayland or Xwayland is involved when using Plasma(X11). This mode is well > supported by KiCad, and additionally it works well with my multi-monitor > setup. > > Should the change proposal be accepted, "Plasma(X11)" will be removed, > leaving "Plasma(Wayland)" as the only available KDE mode. Also, all X11 > applications will then be forced to use XWayland rather than X11, at least > under KDE. > > Assuming my summary is correct, here are my personal problems: > > Problem 1: The KiCad team says they don't support XWayland (nor do they > support pure Wayland) because of bugs. >
From what I've read through the issues, the ultimate problem is in GTK, not wxWidgets, as there is in fact a supported Wayland protocol for mouse warping[1]. Does this issue exist when using wxQt instead of wxGTK? Admittedly, I'm not sure of the state of things with wxWidgets and the backends... [1]: https://wayland.app/protocols/pointer-constraints-unstable-v1 > Problem 2: Plasma(Wayland) doesn't work with my multi-monitor setup. > Do you have a bug report filed at bugs.kde.org about your setup? The KDE folks can take a look and we can try to have things fixed in Plasma (in Plasma 5 today or Plasma 6 when it lands). > Conclusion: If there are remaining Fedora desktops using X11, I might be able > to continue using Fedora, and I might be able to continue supporting KiCad, > _assuming_ I'm willing to switch to another desktop. Of course, after having > used KDE for 20+ years, switching is not very appealing, nor is it very > likely, frankly. > Part of the reason for filing this Change is to shake out these cases and make sure we can get them covered. For what it's worth, I want you to have a good experience on Plasma Wayland, and I'm happy to help try to facilitate that however I can. -- 真実はいつも一つ！/ Always, there's only one truth! _______________________________________________ devel mailing list -- [email protected] To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/[email protected] Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
