On 9/22/19 3:08 AM, Leigh Scott wrote:
On Sat, Sep 21, 2019 at 8:33 PM Ty Young <youngty1997(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote:
Fedora and other distributions have been working on rootless Xorg
since 2013. We've had it in place since at least 2015. This change was
made way back in Fedora 24.

Do you mean 'Support non-root X'? if so some DM's still don't support it.

https://github.com/canonical/lightdm/issues/18


...and it's Open Source. Ironic.


Anyway, I did a google search and apparently running X. Org as user isn't exactly safe either. According to the Gentoo wik[1] a user could snoop on another user's input. It doesn't go into specifics on how these are a big deal, but if they are what's even the point of running non root? Just breaking into the entire system vs. a user?


Not a security expert but if you have user permissions you can do anything a user could normally do including rebooting, shuttting down, uploading files to some private server, logging inputs, etc. The user account is the lowest hanging fruit there is from my understanding.


[1] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Non_root_Xorg#Security_concerns




This is Nvidia's fault. It was hidden from you because sometimes the
packaging for the proprietary Nvidia driver has forced non-rootless
Xorg. I guess that's no longer the case, oh well. Talk to the packager
for the Nvidia driver, or better yet, talk to Nvidia to get them to
support rootless Xorg properly.
As far as I know we don't force non-rootless X.


I haven't smoked any shrooms yet today(/joke), so it isn't my imagination  By default X. Org runs as user but if you follow the Arch wiki you can force it to run as root.


Again, this was never an issue during the mid beta but towards the end of the beta or shortly after release something changed.


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