Thanks for the nomination. +1 for myself Terence
Sent from my iPhone > On May 12, 2016, at 4:45 PM, Poorna Chandra <[email protected]> wrote: > > +1 > >> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Gary Helmling <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> +1 >> >>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:45 PM Andreas Neumann <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> +1 for Terence. >>> >>> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 3:41 PM, Henry Saputra <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Mea culpa for dropping ball on this. Was busy preparing for Apache Big >>> Data >>>> Con about Apache Twill =P >>>> >>>> I need to propose a VP as part of resolution to board. >>>> >>>> I would like to nominate Terence Yim as the VP for Apache Twill. If >>> people >>>> agree with this nomination, we could go on with board resolution for >>>> graduation. >>>> Otherwise feel free to nominate different people and we can have VOTE. >>>> >>>> - Henry >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 7:42 PM, Patrick Hunt <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Be sure to review the incubator "graduation" documentation. There's a >>>>> set of steps that need to be followed. >>>>> >>>>> Patrick >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Henry Saputra < >>> [email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> We could send it now. Sorry I was bit pre-occupied in the last >> week. >>>>>> >>>>>> Any PPMC could start the official VOTE thread to make it happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> If no one beats me, I will send it tomorrow. >>>>>> >>>>>> - Henry >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Feb 18, 2016 at 4:56 PM, Sreevatsan Raman < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Henry for taking this initiative. Do we need to do anything >>>>> before >>>>>>> we send the graduation vote? When can we send this? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>> Sree >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Henry Saputra < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the insights, Tom. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> If no more comments and concerns, I will send graduation VOTE in >>>> next >>>>>>>> couple days. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 9, 2016 at 7:02 AM, Tom White <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 6:21 PM, Henry Saputra < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Hi Tom, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Ah sorry, it was me who misread your email. Somehow my mind >>> went >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>> "Crunch" as in Apache Crunch. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Super Mea culpa from my side. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> No worries! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, I know about Clutch =P >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I thought you would do :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There is one new committer and PPMC added since incubation, >>>> which >>>>> is >>>>>>>> me. >>>>>>>>>> And it is reflected in the reports. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> That's good to know. As I said, I think Twill as a project has >>>>>>>>> demonstrated it operates well at Apache and is ready to >>> graduate. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Need to update the Twill incubator status page to reflect >> it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 7:08 AM, Tom White < >>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Clutch is a reporting tool that gives a useful summary of >>>>> incubator >>>>>>>>>>> metrics for projects in the incubator, including Twill. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> For example column K is for the number of committers added >>>> during >>>>>>>>>>> incubation, which is what prompted my original question. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, Feb 3, 2016 at 5:51 PM, Henry Saputra < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> HI Tom, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I think you mixed up between Twill and Clutch? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As for Twill, we are seeing potential new committers but >>> bit >>>>>>> missing >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> stickiness to >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I am sure some projects outside use Twill already. I >> think >>>>>>>> graduation >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> just another stepping stone for project to grow. >>>>>>>>>>>> Hoping in the near future more new committers will be >>> coming >>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> contribute. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 2, 2016 at 3:20 AM, Tom White < >>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It is indeed a small podling, but I think Twill has >>>>> demonstrated >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> ready to graduate. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> One thing I noticed from the Clutch report was that no >> new >>>>>>>> committers >>>>>>>>>>>>> have been added since the start of graduation [1]. Is >> this >>>>>>> because >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> a lack of suitable candidates? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tom >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 1, 2016 at 6:25 PM, Henry Saputra < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Terence. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would love to hear more thoughts about the graduation >>>>> proposal. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Other Mentors (other than Patrick whom have been >>>> contributed >>>>>>> this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> already), >>>>>>>>>>>>>> we rarely ask for help but this is definitely one of >>> time >>>> we >>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>> opinions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Jan 31, 2016 at 4:20 PM, Terence Yim < >>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for initiating the discussion about >> graduation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> About the subscribers of the dev@list, it is >> currently >>>>> have >>>>>>> 60 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> subscribers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comparing to 27 about a year ago (01/31/16 vs >>> 01/22/15). >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Terence >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Jan 30, 2016 at 11:08 AM, Henry Saputra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI Patrick, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sorry for the late reply, was trying the time to >>> gather >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you look at the email archive [1] you can see >> the >>>> dev@ >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> good amount of emails. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This include messages from Github Pull Requests >>> mirror >>>>> and >>>>>>>> JIRA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The new features development and design had always >>> been >>>>> made >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discussions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am not admin for dev@ list so I do not have >>> numbers >>>>> about >>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> increase of subscriber. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And the community has released about 7 good >> releases >>>> [2] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> From start of incubation it added only 1 new PPMCs >>>> member >>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>> it is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because lack of trying. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community has presented in Apache Con 2014 [3] >>> and >>>>> add >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> public sites [4] [5]. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> More importantly, the mentors had not needed to add >>> any >>>>>>> advice >>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> validate the report. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The releases made were one of the easiest ones to >>> vote >>>>> for. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Putting my IPMC hat on, I do not see any reason for >>>>> Twill to >>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> incubator anymore. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] >>>>>>>>> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-twill-dev/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [2] >> https://archive.apache.org/dist/incubator/twill/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [3] >> http://apacheconnorthamerica2014.sched.org/event/875342b2235e30ec53057352ac7df111 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [4] >> http://www.infoworld.com/article/2609460/hadoop/meet-apache-twill--the-newest-member-of-club-hadoop.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [5] >> https://jaxenter.com/developing-distributed-applications-with-apache-twill-107728.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 9:37 PM, Patrick Hunt < >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Henry, thanks for sending this out. Strictly >>>>> looking at >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation requirements on the incubator wikis I >>>> think >>>>>>>> you're >>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pretty good shape. I agree the community is >> small, >>>> but >>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be the way the project is. More the question is >> is >>> it >>>>> an >>>>>>>> open >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> community that understands the Apache Way and is >>>> ready >>>>> for >>>>>>>> tlp >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> status. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can you provide some quantitative insight into >>>>> progress? >>>>>>>> E.g. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> number >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of pmc added, committers, etc... diversity of the >>>>>>> community. >>>>>>>>>>> Growth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the mailing lists. Some hard numbers that could >>>> provide >>>>>>>>> concrete >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> insight and help with the evaluation. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was recently involved in a discussion on the >>>>> incubator >>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sentry graduation. During that discussion someone >>>>>>> mentioned >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> following document which it seems some folks are >>>> using >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> evaluate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> graduation readiness. It's not a requirement of >>>>>>> graduation, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you feel the project stacks up when evaluated >>> against >>>>> it? >> https://community.apache.org/apache-way/apache-project-maturity-model.html >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Patrick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jan 14, 2016 at 9:23 PM, Henry Saputra >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> HI All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to bring up graduation of Apache >>> Twill >>>>> as >>>>>>> top >>>>>>>>>>> level >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The community has released several successful >>>>> releases >>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> expanded >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the PPMC to show openness, and also have done >> all >>>>>>>>> discussions >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> development in the open following the Apache >> way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The podling is indeed small, and so far has not >>>>> attract >>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> contributions >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from outside world. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I think it is bc most development apps for YARN >>> are >>>>> done >>>>>>>>> mostly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> framework developers which sometimes don't mind >>> to >>>>> spend >>>>>>>>> boiler >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plate >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> exchange for closer control to the lower APIs. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However, I believe Twill community has nothing >>> left >>>>> to >>>>>>>>> learn by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> staying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the incubator. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts and comments are welcomed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> - Henry >>
