> On Sep 26, 2014, at 17:03, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
> On 26/09/2014 16:45, Christopher Schultz wrote:
> 
>>> +1 for commit.
>> 
>> Are you up for back-porting this to Tomcat 7?
> 
> Hmm. Not sure at this point. I'd like to give it sometime to settle in
> to 8.0.x first.

I understand wanting to wait a bit, but at the same time I am eager to see this 
in tomcat7, because that's what is available in Ubuntu repositories for 14.04 
LTS. Pluggable password derivation is a great feature and a security 
enhancement that allows admins to follow best practice, so we should make it 
easy for those who stick with what's available in the repository to enjoy the 
benefits. 

> 
>> I noticed that you
>> committed to trunk in smaller pieces rather than a single commit. Was
>> that to make it easier to back-out certain items if necessary?
> 
> More so folks could see how the solution evolved.
> 
>> Finally, I'd like to write an implementation for bcrypt which is quite
>> popular, but we have already discussed not wanting to have a build-time
>> dependency on anything we don't absolutely need (a policy with which I
>> totally agree).
> 
> Can you point me to that discussion (where no doubt I will have taken
> completely the opposite position to the one I am about to take).
> 
> Build time dependencies don't bother me as long as:
> - they are required for release (so we don't break things)
> - they are optional for other build targets (so folks can still build a
> working instance without them)
> 
> So I'd be +1 for BcryptCredentialHandler that shipped with Tomcat but
> required the user to manually add one or more JARs to make it work.
> 
>> Where would be the best place to put a bcrypt implementation? Source
>> code on the wiki? There's the possibility of writing an implementation
>> using reflection, but that prospect is quite horrifying to me. :)
> 
> I'm leaning towards "in the source tree" but if you wanted to put it
> somewhere else, the wiki is as good as anywhere.
> 
> Mark
> 
> 

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