On Mar 21, 2013, at 9:54 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote: > Nick, > > On 3/21/13 10:17 AM, Nicholas Williams wrote: >> I know that WebSockets will be a part of the Java EE 7 specification >> for full application servers. But will web containers also be required >> to implement this? Or will it be optional, and Tomcat is just being >> nice? :-) > > Do you mean "will the J2EE 7 Web Profile include Websocket?"
No, I meant web container, which I could mention is synonymous with servlet container [1]. Tomcat does not implement Web Profile. It is a web container/servlet container. The primary reason I'm wondering if web containers will be required to implement WebSockets is due to the integration with the new HttpServletRequest#upgrade(). Obviously this was added to facilitate WebSockets, but that doesn't mean that WebSockets will be required for web containers. > > I think it would be foolish for J2EE 7 Web Profile /not/ to include > Websocket, since it's really distinct from all other kinds of > J2EE-related stuff and squarely falls into the web-related pool of slop. However, you remind me of Web Profile, so I would /also/ like to know if Web Profile will require WebSockets. I agree with you that it would be foolish not to. > > As for Tomcat's pursuit of Websocket: our community has demanded it, so > we are providing it, regardless of any standards body. Tomcat has > cherry-picked various J2EE standards to implement and AFAICT isn't > required to do anything other than make its users happy. Obviously, > making users happy means properly supporting the Servlet and JSP specs > which of course requires the EL spec to be implemented as well. At this > point, including Websocket is another of those things we must do to keep > our users happy. Agreed. :-) > > There is a line, though, and I'm not sure if everyone exactly agrees > where that is. Clearly, Tomcat will never implement EJB. It's been great > that TomEE has stepped-in and created a product that bundles existing > J2EE services that a lot of folks want/need but don't want to bother > with the heft of WebSphere, JBoss, etc. > > -chris > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_container --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org
