Hi Mark, thanks for the clarifications, highly appreciated!
As far as the empty <absolute-ordering/> goes: After reading the spec again I've been down to that route as well. So far it didn't work out. Maybe I've just done something wrong - will revisit and try again. Should the <absolute-ordering/> only affect the jars with web-fragments, or does it disable scanning of all jars then? I also discovered another possible impact: Our scenario is to use 1 tomcat installation as 'quasi EAR' container. We use the shared.loader in conf/catalina.properties and set it to our own ${catalina.home}/applib directory which contains all our shared libraries (myfaces, openwebbeans, openjpa, ...). For what I did understand by reading the servlet-3.0 spec is that only fragments and classes in either WEB-INF/classes or WEB-INF/lib/*.jar shall get scanned by tomcat, right? But it seems that also all our shared.loader jars will get scanned as well. I have not explicitly debugged thru, but from the startup times I see no other explanation as our WARs contain almost no jars. If I set the jarToSkip=*.jar then the boot time is back to normal. Is there an explanation in the servlet spec, or does tomcat scan a bit too much yet? txs and LieGrue, strub ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> > To: Tomcat Developers List <dev@tomcat.apache.org> > Cc: > Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2012 2:36 AM > Subject: Re: tomcat 7.0.29 startup time > > On 28/07/2012 00:25, Mark Thomas wrote: >> On 25/07/2012 17:00, Mark Struberg wrote: >>> Hi Lords and Ladies! >>> >>> I'm currently wrangling with a doubled boot time on tomcat7.0.29 in >>> comparison to 7.0.28 (12 webapps in my tc: 7.0.28 < 45s, 7.0.29 > >>> 90s). >>> >>> I'm aware that 7.0.29 now does the scanning for >>> ServletContainerInitializer even if version=2.5 is specified. But >>> there shall no class scanning be performed if >>> metadata-complete="true" is set, right? >> >> Wrong. I don't like this but the intent of the Servlet 3.0 EG was: >> - ServletContainerInitializer cannot be disabled >> - If a ServletContainerInitializer is found, then class-scanning will >> take place >> >>> Any ideas how we can ease the pain quickly? >> >> The only option I see is a custom (non-spec compliant) Tomcat specific >> feature that disables all of this. > > Ah. See the latest developments on > http://java.net/jira/browse/SERVLET_SPEC-36 > > Using an absolute ordering that specifies no fragments along with > metadata-complete=true should do the trick. > > Mark > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org