On 21/05/2010 17:11, Konstantin Kolinko wrote: > 2010/5/21 Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>: >>> Are there any objections? >> Yes. >> >>> The essence is that bootstrap.jar will mention tomcat-juli.jar in its >>> "Class-Path" value in its MANIFEST.MF. >> >> This was a hack we used to keep Eclipse happy. It doesn't serve any >> other purpose. >> > > Eclipse was just an example, that things are broking by that change. > Not everybody uses catalina.bat/sh. > > It is just that I do not like removing features without proper justification. > > Besides that I know of the following: > a) I am able to start Tomcat 6 by running java -jar bootstrap.jar
Which will be broken because you aren't using JULI to provide the LogManager. > b) JSVC documentation says to use jsvc -cp bootstrap.jar > http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/setup.html#Unix%20daemon > http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/setup.html#Unix%20daemon Looks like that needs fixing then. > Though, I should say that > Re: "a)": It is not an important use case. Agreed. > Re: "b)": There are scripts that explicitly build a CLASSPATH for jsvc, e.g. > - in a recent e-mail > http://marc.info/?l=tomcat-user&m=127411783204054&w=2 > - found by Googling (this one is said to be for 5.0) > https://wiki.ucar.edu/display/esgcet/Jsvc+Script+Example > > >> has caused at least one >> support issue for one of our customers. > > This sound bad. > > > Well, if your concerns are really serious and we go this way, let's > 1. Remove commons-daemon.jar reference from bootstrap.jar manifest as well. > 2. Update JSVC instructions in setup.html +1. Mark > > AFAIK, the commons-daemon.jar is not needed unless we run with jsvc. > > Best regards, > Konstantin Kolinko > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org