> It's disturbing that you fail to mention Geronimo altogether.  If we can't
> have cohesion within the ASF - you expect to create it externally?

It wasn't a list of J2EE engine but a list of applications/corps who
drive Tomcat life.
And Geronimo didn't take/fork/guide Tomcat isn't it ? :)

>> That's my wishes for Tomcat, not just code, bits and specs compliance,
>> but recreate a new wider commiters/contributors community.
>
> It takes outreach to make that happen.  Mark isn't offbase, keep posting
> your wishes here, but if you want to make it happen, engage these other
> communities.

I could engage but there should be an acceptance here.
I  couldn't attract Mina/Felix people and got a veto here, it will be
unfair and unproductive for other commuties.
I call for openess and if it receive a positive feedback here, we
could next contact others ASF projects.

> The ASF isn't about being the only code solution.  It's about collaboration
> to create what the active developers determine is the best solution.  If
> anything is lacking in Tomcat, address it, and work with others to address
> it, but certainly don't spend your time wishing things were otherwise.

Yes ASF is not the only solution, but with the rich apis/tools/peoples
in various ASF projects, it seems to me more elegant and pragmatic to
involve ASFers.

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