Oh, misread your post, sorry, thought you where doing RMI "thru" a native lib... ha ha
Nevermind... its what happens when you pull an all nighter.

I'll let a TC guru answer it ;)
But you need to provide more info...

Are the threads stable? What are they doing...
Why only a short time test?
Let it run further, if its stable and doesnt crash, what you running may just be heavy.
Stick it under a load test, someting like JMeter and try break it?
Start up visualgc and watch it... if it keeps climbing, you in trouble.

Normal is relative ;)

java.security.Policy is like a policeman... its watching everything, the properties set, the memory allocated, the network connections, the threads... it may well grow with load.

The memory allocation actually means nothing if you dont actually know what the systems wants to top out at...

If your threads are climbing, it maybe the remote RMI cant keep up.
How long is a piece of string... just whack it and try break it, see if you have built a truck or a porche... etc...

Dont think anyone can tell you "short time" 3 gig perm heap... ok or not ok

Have fun....



----- Original Message ----- From: "Barak Yaish" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <dev@tomcat.apache.org>
Sent: Sunday, September 07, 2008 12:46 PM
Subject: Tomcat 6 Memory problem


Hello all,



I'm reposting here a question I posted before at the Users list, and someone
there suggested that maybe people who aware the source may be more useful.



So.



I'm running Tomcat 6.0.16 on CentoOS 5, linked with native library, 32 bit.
I deployed a Servelt, which on invocation executes an RMI call to a remote
RMI server. Tomcat configured with max heap size of 2G



After short time of running under heavy load, the memory consumption
reported by top is close to 2G. jmap output is:







Attaching to process ID 20248, please wait...



Debugger attached successfully.



Server compiler detected.



JVM version is 1.6.0-b105







using thread-local object allocation.



Parallel GC with 4 thread(s)







Heap Configuration:



  MinHeapFreeRatio = 40



  MaxHeapFreeRatio = 70



  MaxHeapSize      = 2147483648 (2048.0MB)



  NewSize          = 1048576 (1.0MB)



  MaxNewSize       = 4294901760 (4095.9375MB)



  OldSize          = 4194304 (4.0MB)



  NewRatio         = 2



  SurvivorRatio    = 8



  PermSize         = 16777216 (16.0MB)



  MaxPermSize      = 268435456 (256.0MB)







Heap Usage:



PS Young Generation



Eden Space:



  capacity = 582221824 (555.25MB)



  used     = 0 (0.0MB)



  free     = 582221824 (555.25MB)



  0.0% used



From Space:



  capacity = 48103424 (45.875MB)



  used     = 48079216 (45.85191345214844MB)



  free     = 24208 (0.0230865478515625MB)



  99.9496751000511% used



To Space:



  capacity = 69402624 (66.1875MB)



  used     = 0 (0.0MB)



  free     = 69402624 (66.1875MB)



  0.0% used



PS Old Generation



  capacity = 1431699456 (1365.375MB)



  used     = 1424597528 (1358.6020736694336MB)



  free     = 7101928 (6.772926330566406MB)



  99.50395119798104% used



PS Perm Generation



  capacity = 35782656 (34.125MB)



  used     = 28493056 (27.173095703125MB)



  free     = 7289600 (6.951904296875MB)



  79.62811927655677% used







I've dump a file using jmap, and asked MemoryAnalyzer (www.eclipse.org/mat) to take a look. This tool reported that an instance of java.security.Policy
retained 77.7% of the heap (552,569,816 bytes).





I would like to ask whether this behavior seems normal?





Thanks,





Barak.




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