On 4/5/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Niall Pemberton wrote:
> OK theres no interest in Commons here but, thinking about it, location
> is minor - the real issue is about having a separatly released
> artifact that other projects can depend on - which Tomcat could do
> with EL. Any chance of a separate EL release (with a jar in the maven
> repo)?
I'm not an EL expert by any way, but the reason there might not be any
interest, is because no one has time to take and replace an EL
implementation.
If you need additional individual JARs from tomcat published to the
repo, just let me know and I can get it done.
http://tomcat.apache.org/dev/dist/m2-repository/org/apache/tomcat/jasper-el/
>
> I noticed today that Geronimo copied the Tomcat 6 EL implementation
> [3] and now appear to be maintaing it independantly[4][5] - they have
> also published it as a separate artifact[6] in the maven repo.
That is their prerogative, we don't encourage this, but the license
doesn't stop anyone from doing so.
>
> Seems a shame to duplicate and waste effort in this way - and I can
> think of quite a few projects that could benefit by plugging in the
> standard EL.
I agree, we're not in a place in our development cycle to be swapping
out a library. That happens only early in a development cycle or a major
release.
We've just released a stable version, another one coming out, so stuff
like this would go to something like a 6.x where x>0.
I wasn't aware of the Tomcat maven repo (with the EL jar published)
until someone mentioned it on IRC yesterday - which was after I posted
here. Chatting to some of the geronimo people - seems that their main
desire is/was also a version on the normal public ibiblio repo and
Tomcat moving to that would probably remove the need for their copy.
So from my perspective and I think theres thats the only real
issue/desire that remains.
Hope this explains it, I don't think anyone is ignoring you
thanks
Niall
Filip
>
> Niall
>
> [3] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=481390
> [4] http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=rev&revision=514550
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2930
> [6] http://tinyurl.com/2g8oek
>
>
> On 2/8/07, Niall Pemberton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> Following a discussion on Commons Dev[1] about using the independent
>> EL implementation associated with the JSP 2.1 spec I wondered if there
>> is any interest in moving what Tomcat has over to Jakarta Commons?
>>
>> The motivation for all of this is it would IMO be extremely useful for
>> projects to be able to use/depend on an in dependant EL
>> project/component.
>>
>> I realize that this is probably a year too late[2] and that the Tomcat
>> team decided to "in house" EL development and ditch Commons EL because
>> of problems that Commons components can have getting releases out of
>> the door. I would say that I believe we have improved on this in the
>> last year - but probably the best option would be to open up Commons
>> to Tomcat devs (my guess there is already some overlap already?) so
>> that you would have no issues committing and releasing. I would also
>> be prepared to to assist with or RM any EL releases.
>>
>> If this is of interest I'd be happy to propose bringing in both the
>> code and developers to Jakarta Commons.
>>
>> Niall
>>
>> [1] http://tinyurl.com/yqpbnz
>> [2] http://tinyurl.com/32osfx
>>
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