> markw@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>>> this would be a question for the user list,
>>> take a look at the persistence manager
>>> http://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/config/manager.html
>>>
>>
>> I kind of split on where to ask this, but it has actually very little to
>> do with web content sort of things. It has to do with the basic
>> underlying
>> design of the HttpSession. Manager, and Store classes.
>>
>> What I'm asking is seemingly not easily done and I'm looking for some
>> pointers on how one would go about doing it.
>>
>> The page you pointed me to is useful for instruction on how to use the
>> Manager, but I am looking for information for the best way to augment
>> the
>> Manager's behavior.
>>
> for that, you will have to look into the source code and figure out for
> yourself :)

Well, I sort of hoped people more familiar with the source than myself
could give me a couple pointers on how best to approach the project. I
have, in fact, looked at the code, but it will take me some time come up
to speed on the source.
>
>>
>>> markw@mohawksoft.com wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm kind of looking for a couple pointers on a session management
>>>> issue.
>>>>
>>>> I have a web cluster solution, originally designed for PHP, and am
>>>> planning to use it in Java and Tomcat. It provides session locking for
>>>> frames and concurrency and manages small to medium sized web clusters.
>>>> It
>>>> assume no session persistence at the web server level or session
>>>> stickiness at the load balancer.
>>>>
>>>> The HttpSession system seems to assume that a session object lasts
>>>> until
>>>> it is no longer used, and then gets removed by the garbage collector,
>>>> and
>>>> that sessions are sticky to a particular machine. (Unless the cluster
>>>> class is used and all sessions are replicated to all servers.)
>>>>
>>>> In essence, what I need is this simple sort of interaction:
>>>>
>>>> (1) Start session, get data
>>>> (2) Web app processes data
>>>> (3) End session, save data.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It looks like to do this I would have to create a Manager class, a
>>>> storage
>>>> class and a session class. If there is an easier way, and, of course,
>>>> one
>>>> which is minimally invasive to the tomcat structure, I'd ove to hear
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> I can optimize the code a bit on my end to incorporate a sequence
>>>> number
>>>> or something so that if a session is reopened by a process that has
>>>> the
>>>> most recent version, we can just use what's cached, otherwise we'd
>>>> recreate the session object from the new data.
>>>>
>>>> Any ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance,
>>>>
>>>> Mark L. Woodward
>>>>
>>>> P.S.
>>>> Of course, everything I do at this level will be available to the
>>>> Apache
>>>> org if it wants it.
>>>>
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