Konstantin,

On 3/14/22 16:23, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
пн, 14 мар. 2022 г. в 19:45, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:

All,

The current release process as written ends up with the release-date of
the latest release not appearing in the changelog until the *following*
release is done.

I think we should change this. I have tried to remember to do it myself
with 8.5.x when I do releases.

When we have monthly releases, it's not really a huge deal. But when the
releases become less and less frequent (e.g. maintenance mode), then we
have problems like this:

https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-6.0-doc/changelog.html
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-7.0-doc/changelog.html
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-8.0-doc/changelog.html

According to those changelogs, the latest releases do not have a
release-date. But they were in fact released.

1. I see no real point.

a. For historic releases, those 3 files and also 4th
https://tomcat.apache.org/tomcat-5.5-doc/changelog.html

can be hand-edited to add a release date. E.g. I can do this work.

The hard part is finding the actual dates.

b. For current releases,
the date can be seen easily from an announcement at the front page of
https://tomcat.apache.org/

Attracting more visitors to that page is a positive thing, I think.

So it's no problem, except that it's a problem now that we've forgotten what the dates are? That's a definite problem if you ask me.

Are there any objections to making it a policy to update those
changelogs with each actual release and not just the following release?

Let's keep it simple.

btw, I wonder whether release managers actually read the wiki each time
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/TOMCAT/ReleaseProcess

I read it and follow it. Every. Single. Time.

also replying to a later mail:

пн, 14 мар. 2022 г. в 23:07, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
[...]
The actual release contains a changelog which says "Release in
progress." So if you look at the docs/ webapp, you'llsee that your

I see that in your 8.5.x, but in 9.0,x and others it is done in a different way:
- On the tag the changelog file has rtext="" (an empty string).
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/235730aed454e8d3619109f2c563587ff722e69d

It's been done inconsistently. I'm recommending that we become consistent.

- On the source tree (on the active branch in git) it has rtext="in
progress" or "release in progress"
https://github.com/apache/tomcat/commit/b925f769668fee1b6febf12153205ff6bdfd1258

I think it makes more sense to do it this way (with rtext="" on the tag).

I will continue to try to make the changelogs as readable as possible for as many downstream subscribers as possible.

-chris

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