Rémy,

really, I don't understand your work attitude. Carsten contacted us on the mailing list before providing the PR. Then he provided the PR. It was open for EIGHT months. We discussed this in and out, with you and Mark. Everyone expressed the conditions he is willing to accept the PR. I have even asked Carsten to break up the PR to please you. The purpose of RTC/PR is to express your opinion BEFORE it gets merged to avoid post-mortem discussions like this. You expressed your conditions and now you object? This is absolutely not fair and unprofessional.

I cannot share your further explanations as well. The Realm *is* already an object store. Principal name and roles are attributes on that object, so is password. Without this possibility you have the following problems: * You cannot abstract from the persistence layer in your application code, at worst you need to double code for retrieval * You double access time since you need to query the principal store again. A performance penalty in a stateless application, e.g. APIs * You maybe even not have access to the realm. Consider the identity provider gives you some form of token containing the attributes which you CANNOT retreive yourself. How to solve? You can't.

No one is aiming here for an ORM layer.


Mark,

you have even assisted on how to backport to previous versions and object somewhat as well? I don't understand that.


From my PoV Carsten did everything we requested over a very long period of time.

M

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