Any other thoughts on this topic? Mark
On 21/01/2019 10:56, Mark Thomas wrote: > Switching hats and speaking as a Tomcat committer. > > My experience is that folks expect Tomcat to follow the spec and want to > know that it does. However, formal certification (or lack of it) hasn't > seemed to be a big deal for our users in recent years. I don't know how > much of that is because end users care more about actual behaviour than > formal certification and how much it is because they understand the > historical issues between the ASF and Sun/Oracle over access to the TCKs. > > Maybe those expectations will change with the specs moving to Eclipse. > > If the community wants to see the compatibility logo then I have no > objection as the requirements don't seem very onerous. > > Mark > > > On 18/01/2019 22:53, Mark Thomas wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I am writing to your dev@ lists (on BCC) as your project has, in the >> past, requested access to the Java EE TCKs while they were controlled by >> Sun and then Oracle. >> >> As I am sure you are aware, Java EE has moved to Eclipse and is now >> Jakarta EE. The good news is that the TCKs have been open sourced. >> >> https://github.com/eclipse-ee4j/jakartaee-tck >> >> (I haven't tried to build the latest TCK from source yet but it is on my >> TODO list.) >> >> Shipping compatible implementations of the Jakarta EE specs (and being >> able to make public statements to that effect) will be subject only to >> the spec [1] and TCK [2] licenses. There will no longer be a TCK >> agreement or NDA to sign. However... >> >> The question has arisen whether or not any ASF projects will want to use >> the Jakarta EE compatible logo [3]. If a project wants to be able to do >> this, there are some organisational hoops to jump through. Before the >> ASF starts down that path the board has asked me to see if there are any >> projects that want to use the Jakarta EE compatible logo. After all, >> there is no point jumping through the hoops if no-one wants to use the logo. >> >> With the above in mind can you please discuss this amongst your project >> community and reply back to jcp-o...@apache.org whether or not your >> project is interested in being able to use the Jakarta EE compatible >> logo. I ask that you complete this no later than the next board meeting >> (20th February 2019). >> >> If you have any questions about any of the above, please also use >> jcp-o...@apache.org to ask them. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Mark >> >> >> [1] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/efsl.php >> [2] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php >> [3] https://www.eclipse.org/legal/tck.php >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@tomcat.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@tomcat.apache.org
