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Rémy,

On 10/4/18 13:29, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 7:23 PM Christopher Schultz < 
> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
> 
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>> Rémy,
>> 
>> On 10/4/18 05:26, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>> On Wed, Oct 3, 2018 at 10:27 PM Christopher Schultz < 
>>> ch...@christopherschultz.net> wrote:
>>> 
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>>>> Rémy,
>>>> 
>>>> On 10/3/18 09:48, Rémy Maucherat wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> As I talked about during the latest TomcatCon (and the
>>>>> previous one in London actually ...), there's a cloud aware
>>>>> cluster members provider that can be contributed to
>>>>> Tomcat.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The current code is here: 
>>>>> https://github.com/rmaucher/tomcat-in-the-cloud It uses 
>>>>> Kubernetes to retrieve the members of a cluster, rather
>>>>> than multicast (which isn't available) or static (which is
>>>>> well ... static) member providers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Credits: Maxime Beck and JGroups did the initial code
>>>>> Keiichi Fujino explained how to refactor it to fit in the
>>>>> Catalina cluster API and I refactored it as he told me to
>>>>> 
>>>>> Problems: Only does Kubernetes for now (which is likely ok 
>>>>> since it's now widely available) JSON parser dependency 
>>>>> (org.json) that is likely not ok to have as is in the lib 
>>>>> folder (solutions: package renaming using a script or
>>>>> include json code in Tomcat)
>>>> 
>>>> Solr uses this JSON parser which is quite fast, although the
>>>> API is a little little awkward because of it:
>>>> 
>>>> https://github.com/yonik/noggit
>>>> 
>>>> AL2 license
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure it's necessary to have a "streaming JSON" parser
>>>> as opposed to a more "traditional" one where the whole JSON
>>>> object is converted into objects before the client code can
>>>> do anything with them.
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The json from Kube is simple.
>>> 
>>> The org.json parser is very dom like, this event based one
>>> looks good I guess. Is it worth changing my code ? Given the
>>> parser size, event based nature and the presence of a "writer",
>>> this noggit could be worth package renaming (IMO for this one
>>> that's the only viable strategy as I'm not sure there's much
>>> maintenance or use going on - maybe it's bug free ;) ). After
>>> all, we might need/use more json handling in Tomcat in the
>>> future (right ?).
>> 
>> I like the Noggit code because it's insanely small and produces 
>> regular Java objects instead of the nonsense that most JSON
>> libraries produce, with JSONObject and JSONArray, etc.
>> 
>> Compare sizes:
>> 
>> version   bytes  classes Noggit         0.8   27948    14 
>> org.json  (unknown)  43895    21 gson         2.3.1  210856
>> 165
>> 
>> If you want to use it in a streaming/progressive/eventing kind of
>> way, you can. Or you can call the "gimmie the tree" method and
>> get a whole object tree back.
>> 
>> The documentation is non-existent AFAICT, so I've had to read the
>> code to figure out how to use it, which is a little frustrating.
> 
> Ok ! For now I switched to openjson, since it's the same nonsense
> API as the other one (so no retesting needed for now), without the
> "no evil" clause. I had read the org.json license actually and
> thought the evil clause was just for fun, but I guess lawyers
> aren't amused.

I think it's because they know that line is in there for them,
specifically.

- -chris
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