Rainer, On 3/29/18 9:51 PM, Rainer Jung wrote: > Am 30.03.2018 um 02:30 schrieb Christopher Schultz: >> All, >> >> Occasionally, we all have the need to give a reference to a presentation >> to someone e.g. on the users mailing list. For example: >> >> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/6b604dd26142038a4abb1c378af49beee12d4ae1d2d8dc65391fd701@%3Cusers.tomcat.apache.org%3E >> >> >> In that case, I gave a direct link to a specific presentation (my >> Monitoring w/JMX presentation from ApacheCon NA 2016). >> >> I think this isn't good for 2 reasons: >> >> 1. Links are fragile. I may remove my presentation from >> people.a.o/~username, that stuff may be relocated, etc. >> >> 2. It may not be the most up-to-date version of that presentation. I >> gave a similar talk at ApacheCon NA 2015 but the 2016 version is better. >> If I do another one in 2018, presumably it will be the best, most >> up-to-date one and yet I've emailed-out links directly to the 2017 (and >> presumably 2015) version. >> >> 3. It avoids the Tomcat "presentations" page. Presumably, someone >> interested in one presentation may be interested in the others. >> >> The alternative is to say "go to /presentations.html" and search for >> "topic X", but as that page fills-up, I suspect people will be unlikely >> to actually find and read the document. I think a direct-link is >> probably best, if possible. >> >> I'm wondering if there might be a way to fix these. My initial idea was >> something like an "always up-to-date link to presentation X" where X is >> whatever presentations we often refer to (e.g. Mark's "tracking-down >> memory leaks in web applications"). That doesn't fix issue #3 but maybe >> someone else has an idea. >> >> What are our options when it comes to something like a URL which is an >> alias to the "latest presentation X"? If I were in control of the web >> server(s), I'd use something like mod_alias to perform a >> temporary-redirect from tomcat.apache.org/presentations/current-X to >> people.a.o/~user/whatever. That just needs to be updated any time the >> presentation is updated. >> >> That's a little fragile, too, since anyone making a presentation would >> have to register the presentation under a well-known name and then >> submit requests to update it. That means work for someone here (likely >> Mark, part of Infra). Is there a way we could do this such that any >> committer could update such redirects? >> >> Any other thoughts or ideas? >> >> In order to satisfy #3 above, perhaps we could have a dynamic (or maybe >> auto-generated but not actually dynamic) page which lists all the >> presentation topics and floats the "requested" one up to the top. >> Something like: >> >> [Tomcat Presentations] >> >> You have requested the latest version of "Monitoring Tomcat w/JMX". You >> can find it here: [direct link to latest] >> >> You may be interested in these other presentations as well: >> >> * [Other topic A, link to latest] >> * [Other topic B, link to latest] >> * ... >> >> Or even more good stuff: [link to /presentations.html] >> >> WDYT? > > Our ASF link shortener s.apache.org seems to allow to edit shortened > URLs later. So this would give us: > > - short auto.generated permalink or alternatively a self-chosen URI > - the ability to change the target of the permalink if necessary > > I don't know whether only the creator of the original short link can > edit it, but I think so. Just try the freshly created: > > https://s.apache.org/tomcat-jmx-presentation.pdf > > and after you have seen the redirect, got the the mini-GUI at > s.apache.org and see whether you can edit that link (ID) and let it > point to another URL. When submitting the data it will ask you for your > apache user id. The experiment will tell us, if any apache committer can > edit any s.apache.org URL, or only the original creator of a URL.
I tried to edit yours, and it says: " Only the original author of this short-link (rjung) can override it! " Maybe we can persuade Infra to add a feature where, during the creation of a URL ID, the creator can say "any committer can modify this" or something. -chris
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