https://bz.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=57129

--- Comment #23 from Sebastien Tardif <sebtar...@ncf.ca> ---
It seems this issue is about fundamentalist versus pragmatism. Even if the
order is deterministic, some application will still fail because not the order
they are used to, but at least always fail. 

I hate when things are random and I try to compare logs file, it's a pain. Just
for that reason I would have fixed this.

I can tell you that my organization spent so far at least $3000 USD in lost of
time due to this.

I learned in 3rd grade high school that probability of success get lower fast
if you have many tiny problem that doesn't seem useful to fix by themselves.

My app is like 10 years old, with many millions line of code, coded by 100+
developers.

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