Hi, I strongly disagree that the current documentation format is helpful both in terms of readability and accessibility to update.
For about 2 years now I have wanted to do something with them, but never get around to it, but my start so far is a set using DocBook. Even this I am not keen on in terms of writing the documentation since it will discourage some users contributing to the documentation since they have to learn DocBook. On the other hand, it can output as XHTML and PDF which is a real plus, and it's not all that hard. I definitely think overall the Tomcat site could do with a general overhaul and content restructure, but I do not know if that is possible being within the Apache box. There is a definate shift now to XHTML/CSS and "web standards". All browsers in use today can support the amount of XHTML/CSS required, developers cannot and should not deny CSS as a valid method for structuring design and layout completely. In fact, devs should love it because it leaves devs to write semantically pure XHTML. Something like <bug>xxx</bug> that Yoav mentioned is easily handled by a XHTML/CSS markup rather than using a custom tag that is rendered into a TABLE. For example here is how the changelog *could* be represented with "semantically accurate" XHTML (a table is arguably also accurate, but in this case is more of a presentational choice) <h1>Tomcat 5.5.16</h1> <dl id="general"> <dt class="update"> </dt> <dd> Required tcnative library version upgraded to 1.1.2 <abbr class="username">(remm)</abbr> </dd> </dl> <dl id="catalina"> <dt class="bug">23950</dt> <dd> Context.listBindings() should return objects not references. <abbr class="username">(markt)</abbr> </dd> </dl> The DTs by virtue of their class can add the appropriate image for denoting an update or a bug. It could shade the row if it really wanted, we can do anything with it. The DD speaks for itself, and I chose the ABBR since the dev inits are an abbreviation of sorts, but classified it as a username. In CSS2 we would be able to add the parantheses at start and end, but that's not quite ready in all browsers yet. I definitely believe the documentation should be rewritten either in DocBook=>XHTML or pure XHTML with CSS. Allistair -----Original Message----- From: Ian Darwin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 April 2006 20:32 To: Tomcat Developers List Subject: Re: TC6 documentation Yoav Shapira wrote: > There were other reasons for using XML, like the ability for Jakarta > to have some common elements that would get automagically resolved > into the bug tracking URLs, etc. For example, when I edit the > changelog it's great to just put in <bug>n</bug> and have it be > resolved to the proper Bugzilla link URL. I think it cuts down on > typos, broken links, etc. And this is just one example of a useful > custom element out of several. > Right you are, thanks. And am I right that eating our own dog food - using JSP tags for that - is out because we want to maintain statically-usable copies? OTOH it might be a better demo of Tomcat :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="VERDANA,ARIAL" COLOR=BLUE> ------------------------------------------------------- QAS Ltd. Registered in England: No 2582055 Registered in Australia: No 082 851 474 ------------------------------------------------------- </FONT> <FONT SIZE=1 FACE="VERDANA,ARIAL" COLOR=BLACK> Disclaimer: The information contained within this e-mail is confidential and may be privileged. This email is intended solely for the named recipient only; if you are not authorised you must not disclose, copy, distribute, or retain this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error please contact the sender at once so that we may take the appropriate action and avoid troubling you further. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender. QAS Limited has the right lawfully to record, monitor and inspect messages between its employees and any third party. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as QAS Limited deems to be necessary in order to protect its information, its interests and its reputation. Whilst all efforts are made to safeguard Inbound and Outbound emails, QAS Limited cannot guarantee that attachments are virus free or compatible with your systems and does not accept any liability in respect of viruses or computer problems experienced. </FONT> --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]