> I didn't do any real benchmark, but the single-jar 5.5 should be as > fast on startup as 3.3.
good > Less class loaded - and less classes/features you need to worry when > setting up and maintainig is what I meant by footprint - Jetty is > around 0.5M I think. what's the expected class/size for this SmallCat single jar ? > The fact that we have features for everyone is nice - but a developer > doesn't need clustering > or APR, and a production server doesn't need the old connector, the > simple realm or the even the jasper compiler. It's more about beeing > simpler for everyone - by providing the functionality they use. > > And no - it doesn't require any major refactoring - just small tweakings. > > I understand this doesn't help for JBoss - but tomcat != jboss. +1 even if 2 of the major tomcat mainteners are JBOSS employees and we should all recognize it helped to people working full time on TC 5.5.x. Thanks JBOSS > As for JMX - I think we do have a lot of things exposed, and adding > more is quite easy. I think part of the problem is that we may have > too much :-), and most generic JMX tools are not that good when you > have too much data to browse. IMO organizaing a bit the information > and maybe providing simpler interfaces would help. > Having a minimal set of features in the base package doesn't mean you > can't have a lot of features, and it doesn't mean it's much harder to > add features. In a production environment it's the same - either you > remove all the components you don't need or don't understand ( and > might break something ), or just add the components that you need. > > Think about Firefox versus Mozilla. We are in exactly the same > situation, just on server side :-) Well I switched from Mozilla to IE for such reason and now back to Firefox since its a small and great piece of OSS (and of course much more secure) > It's funny that JBoss does have most of this capability already - so I > understand Remy not wanting to reinvent the wheel :-), but I don't > think he can deny that this is a good thing to have. Of course, JBOSS selected the finest developpers « des têtes bien faite plutôt que des tête s bien pleines :-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]