using AJP or HTTP or WHATEVERP protocol you want, the current need for me in my production systems is to be able to add / remove a tomcat machine to a LoadBalancing farm without having to restart the Apache 2 web server.
A WEB admin (I work with them each days) would like to add / remove a tomcat dynamically, for example using an admin webapp on an 'load-balancing administrator console' running on a webapp hosted by a tomcat or may be even a pure Apache 2 application. If you told me it's impossible to add a REQUEST mapper (ie JkMount) dynamically to a running Apache 2.0, I say amen and we'll wait for HTTPD team to allow that. But something we could do allready is to add/remove a tomcat from a lb worker ? 2005/10/25, Costin Manolache <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 10/25/05, Mladen Turk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Costin Manolache wrote: > > > DBUS is a good example in IMO - I'm not > > > saying to use their impl, which doesn't fit, just the protocol spec. > > > > The major power of AJP protocol is known-header-name indexing, and > > IMHO there is no other protocol that is HTTP application focused. > > Well, any protocol can do this - with the right message. > > In this case: it'll be: > enum knownHeadersCode={ .... } > and the message will have an array of ( knownHeaderCode, string ) and > then ( string string) > > Or some other variation - there is nothing so special in Ajp that > can't be encoded in a standard protocol. Except the fact that ajp is > not extensible - so it may save a few bytes. > > > > If there is really a need for a completely new protocol, > > and I doubt there is a real need for that right now, we must presume > > that the primary intent of the protocol is to allow communication of > > two well known and defined http applications. > > Sure - but this can be expressed as well on top of a more standard ( > or common ) marshalling. Marshalling is not specific to any > application, not even in ajp ( maybe the stupid 'first chunk' - but > even this can be expressed with few extra bytes in a normal protocol > ). > > The API you expose - i.e. the message signatures - should remain > specific to the http > app. And a standard protocol would allow you to add all kind of extra > signatures. > > > > If you look at the XDR protocol, each 'string' type message is prefixed > > with additional two bytes compared with AJP, so beside that, the lack of > > header indexing would at least double the packet size, and downgrade the > > performance by twice. > > I don't think the 2 extra bytes is such a big problem. > > Actually there is one thing that is unique to AJP - the callbacks done > over the same connection, as responses ( since tomcat can't initiate a > call ). But even this can be expressed in a proper RPC - by having the > callback as a normal response. > > Costin > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]