> curious we get the failures in Java 11 rather than on 10.x (Java 21)

I agree, and I'm not sure what to make of that.  Clearly I'm still missing
something.

My reply above was based largely on
https://docs.oracle.com/en/java/javase/17/migrate/migrating-jdk-8-later-jdk-releases.html,
which mentions:

>  To aid migration, JDK 9 through JDK 16 allowed this reflection to
continue,
> but emitted warnings about illegal reflective access. However, JDK 17 is
> strongly encapsulated, so this reflection is no longer permitted by
default.

Maybe I'm misreading that section, or that page overall.

> I think we should go ahead and add it for the llm module as well!

+1

On Mon, Jan 6, 2025 at 5:58 AM Alessandro Benedetti <a.benede...@sease.io>
wrote:

> That's interesting!
> @Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com> is curious we get the failures
> in Java 11 rather than on 10.x (Java 21?)
> @Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org> if we only need it for tests and
> also hdfs module already does that, I think we should go ahead and add it
> for the llm module as well!
> --------------------------
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>
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> On Fri, 3 Jan 2025 at 18:18, Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> I've done a bit of research here, but I am not an expert by any stretch. I
>> added the "add-opens" flag to just the llm module test task, and it seems
>> happy with that. After trying to add this to the Jar Manifest, so that
>> users don't have to do anything (and bin/solr doesn't either), I cannot
>> actually replicate the failure locally. Loading the cohere model, which
>> fails in the tests without the fix, succeeds for me. I've tried with 2
>> Java
>> 11 JVMs.
>>
>> After some more searching to see if we do this automatically in bin/solr
>> already, I noticed that the hdfs module already has this code too:
>>
>> // Hadoop mini cluster doesn't handle reflection properly in JDK 16+
>> > //
>> https://docs.gradle.org/current/userguide/upgrading_version_7.html#removes_implicit_add_opens_for_test_workers
>> > tasks.withType(Test).configureEach {
>> >   jvmArgs(["--add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED",
>> >            "--add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED"])
>> > }
>> >
>> >
>> But we don't do anything special for the normal runtime of this module.
>> Just for testing. This leads me to believe that my local tests are correct
>> and for some reason we don't need to do anything outside of the unit
>> tests?
>>
>> - Houston
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 7:17 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > > And I don't know if there are negative implications with that (and
>> > > where this should happen in the code
>> >
>> > To address the second part of this, unless SolrCLI does something
>> > fancy at start time that I'm not aware of, I think this would have to
>> > be set before the JVM starts up.  i.e. in "bin/solr" and/or
>> > "bin/solr.cmd"
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 3, 2025 at 7:59 AM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > I don't follow Java/JVM development very closely, but my understanding
>> > > is that "add-opens" is primarily about encapsulation.  Previous
>> > > versions of Java allowed users to access JDK internals via reflection,
>> > > but that capability is disabled by default starting in Java 17 and
>> > > requires the "add-opens" flag to re-enable partially or entirely.
>> > >
>> > > The main negative implication I'm aware of is portability.  Internal
>> > > JDK methods may change in the future, or differ across
>> > > implementations, and having Solr rely on those internals (transitively
>> > > through the langchain4j dep/usage) risks future breakage.  But that's
>> > > a risk anytime langchain4j is in the picture - the "add-opens" flag
>> > > doesn't make things any better or worse, it just accommodates Java
>> > > 17's firmer stance on encapsulation.  IMO "add-opens" is safe to add
>> > > and probably our best option, unless we're willing to patch or replace
>> > > langchain4j altogether.
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Dec 27, 2024 at 7:18 AM Alessandro Benedetti
>> > > <a.benede...@sease.io> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > So, thanks to @sanjayd...@apache.org <sanjayd...@apache.org> ,
>> adding:
>> > > >
>> > > > --add-opens=java.base/java.lang.invoke=ALL-UNNAMED
>> > > >
>> > > > in:
>> > > >
>> > > > /solr/gradle/testing/defaults-tests.gradle
>> > > >
>> > > > [propName: 'tests.jvmargs',
>> > > >  value: { -> propertyOrEnvOrDefault("tests.jvmargs",
>> "TEST_JVM_ARGS",
>> > > > "-XX:TieredStopAtLevel=1 -XX:+UseParallelGC
>> -XX:ActiveProcessorCount=1
>> > > > -XX:ReservedCodeCacheSize=120m
>> > > > --add-opens=java.base/java.lang.invoke=ALL-UNNAMED") },
>> > > >  description: "Arguments passed to each forked JVM."],
>> > > >
>> > > > Solves the issue.
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > Reading about what it is, it has to do with deep reflection and it
>> > > > makes sense given the mechanism used to instantiate the LLM clients
>> in
>> > > > the code.
>> > > >
>> > > > So to make the module work this should be added as general JVM arg.
>> > > >
>> > > > And I don't know if there are negative implications with that (and
>> > > > where this should happen in the code).--------------------------
>> > > >
>> > > > *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > >
>> > > > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > >
>> > > > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
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>> > > > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > >
>> > > >
>> > > > On Fri, 27 Dec 2024 at 10:57, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > Yes Anshum, it's the java version, I just tried switching locally
>> > between
>> > > > > 11 and 21, it succeeds with 21 and fails with 11.
>> > > > > Not sure what to do though, I'll check now!
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Cheers
>> > > > > --------------------------
>> > > > > *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > > Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >
>> > > > > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > > Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
>> > > > > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
>> Github
>> > > > > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > > On Thu, 26 Dec 2024 at 17:22, Anshum Gupta <
>> ans...@anshumgupta.net>
>> > wrote:
>> > > > >
>> > > > >> I haven't spent time looking at this but could it be the Java
>> > version?
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> On Thu, Dec 26, 2024 at 1:28 PM Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> wrote:
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> > Some additional info:
>> > > > >> > Most tests fail at least because of:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InaccessibleObjectException:
>> Unable
>> > to make
>> > > > >> > private
>> java.lang.invoke.MethodHandles$Lookup(java.lang.Class,int)
>> > > > >> > accessible: module java.base does not "opens java.lang.invoke"
>> to
>> > > > >> unnamed
>> > > > >> > module @774e92eb
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> java.base/java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.checkCanSetAccessible(AccessibleObject.java:340)
>> > > > >> > ~[?:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> java.base/java.lang.reflect.AccessibleObject.checkCanSetAccessible(AccessibleObject.java:280)
>> > > > >> > ~[?:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> java.base/java.lang.reflect.Constructor.checkCanSetAccessible(Constructor.java:189)
>> > > > >> > ~[?:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> java.base/java.lang.reflect.Constructor.setAccessible(Constructor.java:182)
>> > > > >> > ~[?:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at retrofit2.Platform.<init>(Platform.java:59)
>> > > > >> > ~[retrofit-2.9.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >  Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: Could not
>> initialize
>> > class
>> > > > >> > retrofit2.Platform
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at retrofit2.Retrofit$Builder.<init>(Retrofit.java:441)
>> > > > >> > ~[retrofit-2.9.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.ai4j.openai4j.DefaultOpenAiClient.<init>(DefaultOpenAiClient.java:91)
>> > > > >> > ~[openai4j-0.22.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.ai4j.openai4j.DefaultOpenAiClient.<init>(DefaultOpenAiClient.java:26)
>> > > > >> > ~[openai4j-0.22.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.ai4j.openai4j.DefaultOpenAiClient$Builder.build(DefaultOpenAiClient.java:124)
>> > > > >> > ~[openai4j-0.22.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.ai4j.openai4j.DefaultOpenAiClient$Builder.build(DefaultOpenAiClient.java:121)
>> > > > >> > ~[openai4j-0.22.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.langchain4j.model.openai.OpenAiEmbeddingModel.<init>(OpenAiEmbeddingModel.java:75)
>> > > > >> > ~[langchain4j-open-ai-0.35.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    at
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> >
>> dev.langchain4j.model.openai.OpenAiEmbeddingModel$OpenAiEmbeddingModelBuilder.build(OpenAiEmbeddingModel.java:40)
>> > > > >> > ~[langchain4j-open-ai-0.35.0.jar:?]
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >   2>    ... 55 more
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Retrofit is used in langChain4j, no idea why it's complaining
>> in
>> > 9.x,
>> > > > >> my 2
>> > > > >> > cents is that has to do with the gradle backporting, but I have
>> > no clue
>> > > > >> > yet.
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > I'll continue investigating tomorrow, but if anyone has any
>> idea,
>> > feel
>> > > > >> free
>> > > > >> > to tell me!
>> > > > >> > --------------------------
>> > > > >> > *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
>> > > > >> > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
>> > Github
>> > > > >> > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > On Wed, 25 Dec 2024 at 20:12, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >> > > I've done a first investigation and it seems related to class
>> > loading
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >> > > related:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >  module java.base does not "opens java.lang.invoke" to
>> unnamed
>> > module
>> > > > >> and
>> > > > >> > > classNotFound is one of the inner stacktrace I found, related
>> > with the
>> > > > >> > > retrofit library and reflection.
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > I'll keep investigating this, but I'm not able to reproduce
>> all
>> > the 28
>> > > > >> > > failures locally, the best I was able to do was 7 failures.
>> > > > >> > > Not sure if it could be related to gradle or security
>> policy, it
>> > > > >> smells
>> > > > >> > > like that.
>> > > > >> > > Has anybody ever encountered similar issues?
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Cheers
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Cheers
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > --------------------------
>> > > > >> > > *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > > Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > > Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
>> > > > >> > > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
>> > Github
>> > > > >> > > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > On Tue, 24 Dec 2024 at 18:53, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >
>> > > > >> > >> It's definitely the LLM stuff I added!
>> > > > >> > >> Something didn't work, just run them locally and they are
>> > green so I
>> > > > >> > >> suspect I'll need more time investigating what's going on.
>> > > > >> > >> I can take a look on the 27th!
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> I take the occasion to wish happy festivities to everybody!
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> --------------------------
>> > > > >> > >> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > >> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > >> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > >> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > >> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > >> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> | Twitter
>> > > > >> > >> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > >> <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ>
>> |
>> > Github
>> > > > >> > >> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >> On Mon, 23 Dec 2024 at 14:17, Anshum Gupta <
>> > ans...@anshumgupta.net>
>> > > > >> > >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> > >>> The following tests are consistently failing for me.
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> - TestModelManagerPersistence.testModelAreStoredCompact
>> > > > >> > >>> - TestModelManagerPersistence.testModelStorePersistence
>> > > > >> > >>> - TestModelManager.loadModel_openAi_shouldLoadModelConfig
>> > > > >> > >>> -
>> TestModelManager.loadModel_huggingface_shouldLoadModelConfig
>> > > > >> > >>> - TestModelManager.loadModel_cohere_shouldLoadModelConfig
>> > > > >> > >>> - TestModelManager.testRestManagerEndpoints
>> > > > >> > >>> -
>> TestModelManager.loadModel_mistralAi_shouldLoadModelConfig
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>>  On looking at the recent runs, it seems like it's been
>> > failing on
>> > > > >> 9x
>> > > > >> > and
>> > > > >> > >>> 9.8. Can someone help out with this?
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 3:37 AM Anshum Gupta <
>> > > > >> ans...@anshumgupta.net>
>> > > > >> > >>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> > Thank you everyone for keeping the momentum while I was
>> > away the
>> > > > >> last
>> > > > >> > >>> few
>> > > > >> > >>> > days. I plan to build the RC tomorrow.
>> > > > >> > >>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> > On Sat, Dec 21, 2024 at 1:33 AM Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> > >>> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> > >>> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> Cherry-picked to 9.8!
>> > > > >> > >>> >> We should be good to go from my side, thanks everyone!
>> > > > >> > >>> >> --------------------------
>> > > > >> > >>> >> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > >>> >> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> |
>> > Twitter
>> > > > >> > >>> >> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > >>> >> <
>> https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ>
>> > |
>> > > > >> Github
>> > > > >> > >>> >> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 17:05, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> > >>> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > So, I merged to 10.x and backported to 9.x (thanks
>> > Christos for
>> > > > >> > the
>> > > > >> > >>> >> review
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > of gradle stuff revert).
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > I'm proceeding with 9.8 branch now
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > --------------------------
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> |
>> > Twitter
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > <
>> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
>> > > > >> > Github
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 11:11, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> > >>> >> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> > wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> P.S. we can always change the CHANGES.txt later if
>> > necessary
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> --------------------------
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> e-mail: a.benede...@sease.io
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> *Sease* - Information Retrieval Applied
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> Consulting | Training | Open Source
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> Website: Sease.io <http://sease.io/>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> LinkedIn <https://linkedin.com/company/sease-ltd> |
>> > Twitter
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> <https://twitter.com/seaseltd> | Youtube
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> <
>> > https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx86ZKLYNpI3gzMercM7BQ> |
>> > > > >> > >>> Github
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> <https://github.com/seaseltd>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> On Fri, 20 Dec 2024 at 11:10, Alessandro Benedetti <
>> > > > >> > >>> >> a.benede...@sease.io>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> Ok, I'll proceed merging now to 10.x, I'll align
>> with
>> > > > >> Christos
>> > > > >> > >>> for the
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> backporting as there's gradle stuff to do, I am not
>> > super
>> > > > >> > >>> confident
>> > > > >> > >>> >> doing
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> it alone,
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> Cheers
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> --------------------------
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> *Alessandro Benedetti*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> Director @ Sease Ltd.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> *Apache Lucene/Solr Committer*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> *Apache Solr PMC Member*
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>
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>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> On Thu, 19 Dec 2024 at 15:06, Houston Putman <
>> > > > >> > >>> houstonput...@gmail.com
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> I say we just merge it. It's safe enough and we
>> have
>> > enough
>> > > > >> > >>> people in
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> agreement.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> - Houston
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 2:51 PM Jason Gerlowski <
>> > > > >> > >>> >> gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > Yeah, Anshum is on vacation, but he also
>> mentioned
>> > > > >> wanting to
>> > > > >> > >>> keep
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > momentum on the release - so it wouldn't surprise
>> > me to
>> > > > >> see
>> > > > >> > >>> him pop
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > back online.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > I think a "best judgement" approach is fine here:
>> > > > >> optionally
>> > > > >> > >>> wait
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > another day, but then feel free to target 9.8 if
>> > you don't
>> > > > >> > hear
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > anything.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > Best,
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > Jason
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > On Thu, Dec 19, 2024 at 8:57 AM David Smiley <
>> > > > >> > >>> dsmi...@apache.org>
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> wrote:
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > > Jason; at the meetup, you mentioned Anshum was
>> on
>> > > > >> vacation.
>> > > > >> > >>> >> Would
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> it
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > make
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > > sense for us to make decisions (using our best
>> > > > >> judgement)
>> > > > >> > >>> >> instead of
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> > > waiting on a response?
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> >
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>> > > > >> > >>> >> >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> >>
>> > > > >> > >>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> >
>> > > > >> > >>> > --
>> > > > >> > >>> > Anshum Gupta
>> > > > >> > >>> >
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>> --
>> > > > >> > >>> Anshum Gupta
>> > > > >> > >>>
>> > > > >> > >>
>> > > > >> >
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >>
>> > > > >> --
>> > > > >> Anshum Gupta
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