Interesting -- although certainly related, I think these are somewhat
orthogonal questions. You could well have a merge strategy/heap and gc
configuration/index size that would have the same "humongous object"
problem even under a per-segment cache approach (certainly for cores
optimized to a single segment, but also in other cases).

On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 7:12 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Aug 19, 2024 at 2:32 PM Michael Gibney
> <mich...@michaelgibney.net> wrote:
> > For a more robust solution than fussing with G1HeapRegionSize, I'm
> > wondering if it might be appropriate to change the implementation of
> > BitDocSet so that larger instances will be backed by an array of
> > multiple smaller FixedBitSet instances. This would introduce some
> > extra complexity for DocSets over large indexes, but it shouldn't be
> > terrible; it could be cleanly implemented and would ensure that we
> > never allocate humongous objects in the service of BitDocSets ...
>
> IMO I don't think this is quite the right direction to go in.
> Instead, we should prioritize a FixedBitSet per segment -- basically a
> segment level filterCache.  This exists at the Lucene level
> (IndexSearcher QueryCache); we could stop disabling it.  It'd go with
> the new multiThreaded query stuff wonderfully.  But would then want to
> do changes in BitDocSet so that it becomes an aggregate of
> FixedBitSets sourced from that cache.  At least this is a strawman
> proposal; needs more thought!
>
> Note that Yonik resisted ending Solr's top level FixedBitSet on the
> grounds that benchmarks are needed to show that a segment approach is
> better.  But that's challenging -- we will find the status quo is
> faster for some situations and a segment level is faster for others.
> Shrug.
>
> ~ David
>
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