I used it back in the days when you could migrate from v3->4->5->6. It solved
the issue that Solr 6 could only read a Lucene 6 or Lucene 5 index, but after 
the
sequence of upgrades you'd get there. I even wrote a wrapper to automate it all 
at
https://github.com/cominvent/solr-tools/tree/master/upgradeindex

However, now that Lucene 9 refuses to work with any index created before Lucene 
8,
I agree with Jason that I cannot see any utility for the upgrade tool anymore. 
Since,
if you have a Solr 6 index, it won't work in Solr 9 even if you used the 
upgrader.
And if you already have a Lucene 8 index, no need to upgrade by hand, just start
Solr 9 on top of the Lucene 8 index and it will be upgraded.

+1 to remove mention from ref-guide.

PS: If the upgrader tool was able to patch the original-index-version from the 
binary 
index (and user understands the risks), then there could be some utility. But 
I'm not
aware of such an option.

Jan

> 3. juni 2024 kl. 21:20 skrev Gus Heck <gus.h...@gmail.com>:
> 
> I've fielded many questions on this from clients. Folks who have managed
> databases expect to be able to upgrade the data serially across versions
> and such, so these questions come up alot with organizations early in their
> journey with search. Essentially, I tell them that it's a stop gap tool for
> use if there's a serious security issue and you really need to move up one
> version to get away from the security issue, but otherwise the correct
> procedure is to re-index. (And this is sometimes when I find out if they've
> really planned for reindexing or not). A down-side of the existence of this
> tool is that its presence in the ref guide allows people to prolong the
> period where they confuse managing a search index with managing a database.
> That said, I think it may have a place to help folks who got going without
> knowing enough about search engines to extend the period they have to dig
> themselves out of bad situations (by allowing an upgrade while they figure
> out how they are going to handle re-indexing more data than they previously
> planned on indexing all at once). So far every one of my clients has taken
> my advice and simply re-indexed (though not always without grumbling!), so
> I have to admit I've not actually seen it used, but in theory it makes some
> sense.
> 
> -Gus
> 
> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 2:20 PM David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> 
>> FWIW, in my experience I've never run this tool (nor colleagues) at
>> any stage in my career that I can remember.  For one reason, all the
>> systems could re-index if they needed to.
>> It may be best to remove this information, as it could introduce more
>> confusion than it helps.
>> 
>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 1:34 PM Jason Gerlowski <gerlowsk...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hey all,
>>> 
>>> I was poking around the ref-guide a bit recently and noticed our page
>>> on the "IndexUpgraderTool" that Lucene produces. [1]
>>> 
>>> AFAICT, the page doesn't hint at when/why a user might want to use the
>>> IndexUpgraderTool.  Maybe at one point the tool might've been
>>> preferred to loading the index in an upgraded Solr version, but I
>>> haven't heard of anyone doing that in the last few years.
>>> 
>>> Is this something we expect users to still do?  If so, for what
>>> usecase?  And if not - should we drop it from the ref-guide - it seems
>>> like it might confuse folks since it's not actually needed to upgrade
>>> Solr versions...
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jason
>>> 
>>> [1]
>> https://solr.apache.org/guide/solr/latest/deployment-guide/indexupgrader-tool.html
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