I always assumed after the CDCR stuff was removed from Solr, the idea was
to provide a better first-party solution one day.
To me, first party means not "experimental" or "sandbox", so it makes sense
to live in the main Solr repo.

In general, I agree with Eric, nothing should "live" in the solr-sandbox
repo forever. It should be developed there, and either be promoted or
abandoned.
The same goes for the file encryption stuff that lives there. Once it
reaches a certain level of stability, it should be moved in.

I think as a module, it's much easier to develop as a part of Solr instead
of separately. This was certainly the case for the Docker image.

- Houston

On Fri, Sep 8, 2023 at 6:04 PM Eric Pugh
<ep...@opensourceconnections.com.invalid> wrote:

> My perspective of Solr-sandbox is that it’s an area for ideas to be worked
> on, but no real promises….  They might be abandoned at any moment, or have
> issues..   No real expectation of docs or any kind of support.   It’s meant
> for solr committers to collaborate with other solr committers on new things…
>
> So if we are going to ref guide it etc, seems like it should live in the
> main Solr repo.    Or, be promoted to some repo that doesn’t have “sandbox”
> in the name, like the Solr-operator project….
>
>
>
> > On Sep 8, 2023, at 4:50 PM, David Smiley <david.w.smi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Houston,
> >
> > Can you please elaborate on the purpose:
> >> and moving it into Solr would allow others to use and collaborate on it
> > easier.
> >
> > How is that?
> >
> > I am guessing another motivation may be visibility / awareness.  If that
> is
> > a motivation, I think that can be addressed with prominent references in
> > the Solr Reference Guide and website news updates.
> >
> > ~ David
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 7, 2023 at 12:33 PM Houston Putman <hous...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hey everyone,
> >>
> >> I think it's a good time to talk about the future of the cross DC work
> >> that's been going on in the Solr Sandbox repo.
> >>
> >> Mark (and others) have been doing amazing work there, and I think it's
> >> close to a state that we can bring it out of the sandbox and into Solr
> >> itself. It's been running successfully in Apple, and moving it into Solr
> >> would allow others to use and collaborate on it easier.
> >>
> >> There are two parts to this cross DC tool.
> >>
> >>   - A cross-dc-producer
> >>   <https://github.com/apache/solr-sandbox/tree/main/crossdc-producer>,
> >>   which is a Solr plugin that has a Update-request-processor that adds
> >>   documents to a Kafka Queue to be indexed asynchronously.
> >>   - A cross-dc-consumer
> >>   <https://github.com/apache/solr-sandbox/tree/main/crossdc-consumer>,
> >>   which is a separate application that handles consuming documents from
> >> Kafka
> >>   and sending it to Solr to be indexed.
> >>
> >> In my mind, I envision when we move the cross-dc-consumer into the Solr
> >> codebase, it would live much like the Prometheus Exporter. Where it's
> >> released as a part of the same binary package, but not in the slim
> >> distribution.
> >>
> >> As for the cross-dc-producer, that can live as a Solr module, much like
> the
> >> other modules that Solr ships with. Once again, this would not be
> included
> >> with the Slim distribution.
> >>
> >> This ties the cross-dc packages to specific Solr versions, much like
> other
> >> Modules or SolrJ. I think this is an acceptable thing, but others might
> >> want it to be more version agnostic or have a separate release schedule
> >> from Solr.
> >>
> >> Overall this thread is to just get the conversation started so that we
> can
> >> throw all the ideas out there before we make a decision on one.
> >>
> >> - Houston
> >>
>
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