We have advertised the post tool in the past in our examples/tutorials.
Difficult to erase all traces of it from the web.
It is better to remove the tool from the Solr distro, and, maybe, relocate
it to the sandbox/extras repo, from where a user can consciously choose to
download and use it if needed.

If we have proper documentation, I don't see how anyone building POCs will
miss out on the post tool. Is there a use case that users can't achieve
easily through a documented method that the post tool caters to?

On Tue, 23 May 2023 at 11:25, David Smiley <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:

> Ishan, your beliefs surprise me.  Maybe I'm misunderstanding your point of
> view... is the key word of your response "advertise" and we can then debate
> what that means?  In other words, are you saying bin/post (and other things
> you don't think should be used in production) should not exist at all or we
> should be very careful about how we "advertise" its existence?  I think
> features that help people build POCs / explore / learn are good things,
> even if not used typically in production.  At times we over-advertised
> features without enough disclaimers on the suitability of the feature in
> question.
>
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>
>
> On Mon, May 22, 2023 at 10:09 PM Ishan Chattopadhyaya <
> ichattopadhy...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Ishan, you did not give an argument for why you believe bin/post should
> > go away. Do you feel it is better to document all the cURL commands to be
> > more "standard"?
> >
> > Precisely! We should never advertise anything that shouldn't be used at
> > scale or in production. That includes the post tool, example modes of
> > startup, schemaless/data-driven etc.
> >
> > Curl is popular enough on Windows as well, through ports or WSL. There
> are
> > tools like Insomnia or Postman too. We should encourage their use, rather
> > than promote our home grown tool by shipping oob and/or referring to it
> in
> > tutorials.
> >
> > On Tue, 23 May, 2023, 3:26 am David Smiley, <dsmi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > *If* bin/solr is to subsume bin/post, I think it deserves its own
> issue;
> > > should not be a detail of SOLR-6994 -- "Implement Windows version of
> > > bin/post".  Really; wow that'd be sneaky to do something so visible to
> > > users / documentation under a OS/platform compatibility oriented title.
> > >
> > > I am strongly not a fan of having bin/solr subsume bin/post.  bin/post
> is
> > > very distinct enough in purpose to remain separate.  The stated
> > motivation
> > > seems out of convenience to Solr internal workings, which doesn't serve
> > the
> > > user's best interests IMO.
> > >
> > > ~ David Smiley
> > > Apache Lucene/Solr Search Developer
> > > http://www.linkedin.com/in/davidwsmiley
> > >
> > >
> > > On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 7:33 AM Eric Pugh <
> > ep...@opensourceconnections.com
> > > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > As part of SOLR-6994 I’m migrating the SimplePostTool to be part of
> > > > bin/solr commands.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > We document a number of example use cases:
> > > >
> > > > * JSON file: bin/solr post -url http://localhost:8983/wizbang/update
> > > > events.json
> > > > * XML files: bin/solr post -url http://localhost:8983/records/update
> > > > article*.xml
> > > > * CSV file: bin/solr post -url http://localhost:8983/signals/update
> > > > LATEST-signals.csv
> > > > * Directory of files: bin/solr post -url
> > > > http://localhost:8983/myfiles/update ~/Documents
> > > > * Web crawl: bin/solr post -url
> > > > http://localhost:8983/gettingstarted/update https://solr.apache.org/
> > > > -recursive 1 -delay 1
> > > > * Standard input (stdin): echo '{commit: {}}' | bin/solr post -url
> > > > http://localhost:8983/my_collection/update -type application/json
> -out
> > > > yes -d
> > > > * Data as string: bin/solr post -url
> > > http://localhost:8983/signals/update
> > > > -type text/csv -out yes -d $'id,value\n1,0.47'
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > The last two, stdin and data as a string,  feel rather obscure to me,
> > and
> > > > I’d like to not port them over to being supported by the bin/solr
> post
> > > tool
> > > > equivalent.    Thoughts?
> > > >
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