+1 on exploring ways to address slow startup. My experience too, Houston.

On Fri, 19 May, 2023, 8:25 pm Houston Putman, <houstonput...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Somewhat related question/thoughts on the Java SolrCLI:
>
> I have noticed that, at least for me, the SolrCLI is very slow. I added
> timing information to the gradle integration tests to show how slow it
> actually is.
>
> It looks like a baseline of starting a SolrCLI process is around 2.5
> seconds for me, not including interacting with Solr at all.
> I'm not really sure how we could think of improving this, since it just
> takes a while for the JVM to start unfortunately.
>
> I would love to use the SolrCLI to do auth checks by default for the Solr
> Operator, but the fact that it takes 4-5 seconds for a healthy check to
> complete is worrisome. Also creating the JVM every 10 seconds might be a
> burden on the system. (not really sure how big of a burden though)
>
> A few questions:
>
>    - Are my settings messed up, and other people see very quick SolrCLI
>    times?
>    - Are these times generally ok for everyone?
>    - Do we want to look into the possibility of using other
>    languages/tools to build out the SolrCLI?
>       - This is even more possible once the v2 API work is done and we
>       can create APIs in any language.
>       - Though the ZK interaction and Auth stuff will certainly be more
>       complicated...
>
> - Houston
>
> On Tue, May 9, 2023 at 1:05 PM Eric Pugh <ep...@opensourceconnections.com>
> wrote:
>
>> We have some dueling Solr CLI umbrella JIRA issues.   If images were
>> allowed, I would have a picture of Shawn and I waving folded umbrellas
>> around like 17th century swordsmen ;-).
>>
>> [SOLR-16757] Umbrella Ticket for Reading Solr CLI's for the Future - ASF
>> JIRA <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16757>
>> issues.apache.org <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16757>
>> [image: fav-jsw.png] <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16757>
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16757>
>>  Is the one I started, and it’s really just a grab bag of various JIRA’s
>> that have been open around the Solr CLI.
>>
>> [SOLR-16790] Umbrella - Improve Solr CLI tools - ASF JIRA
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16790>
>> issues.apache.org <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16790>
>> [image: fav-jsw.png] <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16790>
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-16790>
>>  Is one that Shawn opened that is a bit more targeted around how we start
>> Solr from the CLI.
>>
>> What if we rename SOLR-16790 to just “Improve Solr CLI tools startup of
>> Solr” (removing the umbrella term since just two tickets under it)?    If
>> it makes sense to make it linked form SOLR-16757 then we could do that, but
>> I don’t have a strong opinion there.
>>
>> I do think it’s important that Shawn and I (and anyone involved!) be
>> communicative on what we’re working on and the state of the JIRAs so that
>> we don’t work at cross purposes.   As I finish tickets, I’ll try to let
>> folks know, and which is the next one so that we don’t work against each
>> other.
>>
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
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