On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 4:36 PM Mike Drob <md...@apache.org> wrote:
> From my understanding, SBOM are meaningful in the context of a release, not
> necessarily an arbitrary code point. VEX on the other hand could be updated
> between releases as information comes in about new CVEs and such. I think
> that’s an important duality to consider when it comes to storage of these.

Yes, that's how I think about those as well

> I’ll play with the VEX file you generated a little bit more later this
> week, definitely looking forward to it! Can you also put up a PR for how
> you generated the SBOM?

Sure - I used 
https://github.com/apache/solr/commit/b1a49b5ea18ed9b28df877d2e7853477a63702ab
here, just rebased and turned into a draft PR at
https://github.com/apache/solr/pull/1203

> I’m not sure we want to commit to that yet, but at
> least a draft state would be best to collaborate on.

That makes sense! There's a number of different SBOM formats and ways
to generate them. My choice for org.cyclonedx.bom here was simply a
quick way to get started experimenting with VEX, I haven't looked at
the quality of the output or the relative merits of other formats yet.
I like having a tangible starting point to talk about and improve on
:).


Kind regards,

Arnout

> On Wed, Nov 30, 2022 at 3:15 AM Arnout Engelen <enge...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We regularly get questions asking whether Solr is affected by
> > vulnerabilities that were disclosed for a dependency. With all the
> > recent enthusiasm around vulnerability scanning and SBOM's, I think we
> > can expect the number of such questions to rise.
> >
> > Solr already does a great job of collecting known false positives at
> >
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/SOLR/SolrSecurity#SolrSecurity-SolrandVulnerabilityScanningTools
> > . I think it would be interesting to experiment with sharing this
> > information in a machine-readable way. I've been reading up and
> > experimenting a bit, and it's clear that it is early days, and a lot
> > of work still needs to be done in the wider ecosystem: there are
> > various SBOM/VEX file formats, and even within a format most tools
> > rely on their own dialect.
> >
> > That said, I've had some success generating a VEX file from the table
> > on the Solr wiki, attached. When I create an SBOM for solr 9.0.0 with
> > the gradle org.cyclonedx.bom plugin, load it into the OWASP
> > dependencytrack tool, and when I apply the VEX indeed it filters out
> > some of the reported CVE's and marks the Calcite problem
> > (CVE-2022-39135) as 'exploitable' - so that's at least a start. I
> > would be interested in pointing people with questions about
> > vulnerability scanner results to that, and working with them to gain
> > experience on what we can do to make this useful.
> >
> > I would be happy to maintain a VEX file for Solr, be the contact point
> > for feedback and questions on how to use it, etc. It doesn't look like
> > the wiki allows file uploads, perhaps we could include it in the
> > solr-site repo? We could also expand the "Solr and Vulnerability
> > Scanning Tools" section on the wiki, explaining in more detail what to
> > do when their CVE scanning tool flags a problem in Solr. I'd also be
> > happy to propose a first draft of such a paragraph.
> >
> > Curious to hear your thoughts!
> >
> >
> > Kind regards,
> >
> > Arnout
> >
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