The version number looks fine. Like Andrew said I think the only thing that
matters is that we don't advertise these as official releases.

Thanks for driving this Pat!

On Thu, Dec 15, 2016 at 7:13 PM Andrew Purtell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> How you manage source control is pretty much up to you. The key is to
> clearly tag commits that correspond to releases and only advertise those
> and their binary and/or source artifacts as official project releases. I
> think that will cover it.
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:16 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > Assuming the mentors see no problem with this. I’ll start a hotfix
> branch from master, merge the fix with it and then into master (it’s
> already in develop). I’ll add a .1 to the artifacts so they will be
> 0.10.0-incubating.1 This will be documented in the appropriate places but
> only visible if you pull from master. it will not trigger a new release.
> Please remember that master is not our SNAPSHOT branch as explained below.
>
> >
>
> > speak soon or...
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Dec 14, 2016, at 4:11 PM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > @Mentors
>
> >
>
> > We are discussing creating a “hotfix” branch from which we will merge
> into development as well as master.
>
> >
>
> > These hotfixes are an agile way to fix serious problems in the master
> where we maintain a stable non-SNAPSHOT version. I did not see this as a
> release with a tarball into the nexus-verse. The key thing about these is
> that we do not put experimental “SNAPSHOT” code into master as do many
> other Apache projects. So merging hotfixes into master would give users a
> way to retrieve a fairly stable fix with none of the more experimental code
> in develop.
>
> >
>
> > So keeping the context in mind I would imagine recommending people
> upgrade to the hotfix version, otherwise why put it in master—given our
> care about keeping master stable.
>
> >
>
> > This is not an academic question because we now have at least one
> serious bug fix waiting for the hotfix part of the process. It is not
> enough to trigger a full merge of the develop branch since develop is not
> ready yet and is too serious to wait for a full release.
>
> >
>
> > To see the process we’d like to follow please have a look at:
> http://nvie.com/posts/a-successful-git-branching-model/ This model has a
> great deal to recommend it and has been used in PIO for some time. We have
> already agreed to follow this model, now we are discussing logistics.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > On Dec 5, 2016, at 9:03 AM, Donald Szeto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >
>
> > I am okay with reserving patch for official releases, and use suffix that
>
> > have something with an increasing numerical in it.
>
> >
>
> > We will probably need a dedicated page or micro site in the doc for these
>
> > kind of unofficial tar balls. It is against ASF policy to mark anything
> as
>
> > release and encourage people to use without the formal voting process.
> They
>
> > also cannot be sync to ASF distribution.
>
> >
>
> >> On Thu, Dec 1, 2016 at 10:25 AM Pat Ferrel <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> But the downside is we never touch major, or haven’t in all the years of
>
> >> PIO. So in effect all releases will be minor number changes and so far
> we
>
> >> have only touched that 10 times in all the years of PIO. We could skip
> many
>
> >> patch numbers and only fully release on important ones. But Semantic
>
> >> Versioning 2.0 allows a lot of other encoding of minor information in
> the
>
> >> hyphen extension like dot numbers, beta, RC, incubating etc.
>
> >> http://semver.org/#spec-item-9 <http://semver.org/#spec-item-9> They
>
> >> account for things as crazy as 1.0.0-x.7.z.92.
>
> >>
>
> >> I guess I’m ok with either skipping a lot of patch numbers per actual
>
> >> release and only using patch numbers to denote hotfixes or adding
> something
>
> >> to the hyphen extension but limiting release numbers to something as
> course
>
> >> grained as major and minor seems problematic.
>
> >>
>
> >> And yet if everyone likes this so be it.
>
> >>
>
> >> On Dec 1, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Donald Szeto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >> Yes. I was suggesting to use 0.10.1-incubating. The upside of this is
> that
>
> >> our end users know which one has included all the latest fix instead of
>
> >> tracking different JIRA ticket numbered suffices. We can limit real
>
> >> releases to touch only major and minor version parts.
>
> >>
>
> >> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]>
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>
>
> >>> Good point (reliable building). An extension of strict semantic
>
> >> versioning
>
> >>> allows an extension like -incubating, this could include a Jira # too
> so
>
> >>> the full artifact name might be:
>
> >>>
>
> >>> org.apache.predictionio-0.10.0-incubating-jira-255 and this would be
>
> >>> tagged jira-255 in either hotfix of master branches.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> This allows the docs to remain unchanged because the version 0.10.0
> does
>
> >>> not change, which we might reserve for real releases. Donald are you
>
> >>> suggesting a new 0.10.1-incubating for each hotfix?
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>> On Nov 28, 2016, at 10:18 AM, Donald Szeto <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>> We should also talk about how we proceed with versioning these patch
>
> >>> releases. We follow semantic versioning, so naturally we could use
> major
>
> >>> and minor portions for official releases, and the patch portion for
>
> >>> micro-releases / hotfixes. This way, even though Maven artifacts won't
> be
>
> >>> published to the central repository, users will not get tripped with
>
> >>> different cached versions of the artifacts.
>
> >>>
>
> >>> On Mon, Nov 28, 2016 at 10:14 AM, Donald Szeto <[email protected]>
>
> >> wrote:
>
> >>>
>
> >>>> Pat's link is the best description of the Git development model that
>
> >>>> PredictionIO has been using since the beginning. I also support the
> use
>
> >>> of
>
> >>>> hotfix branches that will merge into both master and develop branches.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> Branching for different sets of external dependencies, in my opinion,
>
> >>>> should be the last resort. We can try to work our build system to
>
> >>>> accommodate.
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> When we have a conclusion we should update http://predictionio.
>
> >>>> incubator.apache.org/community/contribute-code/
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>> On Sat, Nov 26, 2016 at 10:00 AM, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]>
>
> >>>> wrote:
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>>> This is a better description of how we should be managing code and
> git
>
> >>>>> branches than I have every seen: http://nvie.com/posts/a-succes
>
> >>>>> sful-git-branching-model/ <http://nvie.com/posts/a-succe
>
> >>>>> ssful-git-branching-model/> It includes the use of develop, a stable
>
> >>>>> master branch, and hotfixes to master. I also like more than one
>
> >> release
>
> >>>>> branch because I imagine once we support two versions of
> Elasticsearch
>
> >>> or
>
> >>>>> Spark that require code changes, a branch is the natural way to
>
> >> assemble
>
> >>>>> the code.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> The post is worth a read and discussion. My other Apache git based
>
> >>>>> project could use this approach too.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> In this case I’m only proposing that major bug fixes (hotfixes) be
>
> >>>>> allowed into master and be tagged. The post gives good rationale for
>
> >>> this.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> On Nov 25, 2016, at 11:30 PM, Paul-Armand Verhaegen <
>
> >>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>> Great proposal. I certainly agree with the needs in the community and
>
> >>>>> associated benefits for fast bug fixes in master.
>
> >>>>> If I may suggest to hotfix against master with merge towards
>
> >>> development.
>
> >>>>> Merges can be cumbersome when dev and master diverge.
>
> >>>>> It can become very difficult if the fixes (from dev) cannot be
> applied
>
> >>> to
>
> >>>>> master, and additional commits need to be made, that has messed up my
>
> >>> head
>
> >>>>> before.
>
> >>>>> Although more or less the same work, I believe it to be less of an
>
> >> issue
>
> >>>>> if we end up messing up dev.
>
> >>>>> I'm also in favor of using a well-documented approach such as
> gitflow,
>
> >>>>> since I often forget the exact workflows of different projects.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>> On 25 Nov 2016, at 18:57, Pat Ferrel <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> Our dev process includes edge/snapshot code being kept in the
> develop
>
> >>>>> branch until release time. I like this process because it allows us
> to
>
> >>> keep
>
> >>>>> master clean and stable. So imagine that we have a major bug fix. To
>
> >> get
>
> >>>>> this to users we could do a release but this can’t happen soon enough
>
> >>> if a
>
> >>>>> user has discovered it and already needs the fix. We could point to a
>
> >>>>> commit in develop but that branch is a little wild until release
> time.
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> I’d like to propose we allow some commits to master, to fix critical
>
> >>>>> bugs, and tag these with the Jira # describing the bug. The fix would
>
> >>> also
>
> >>>>> go in develop so at merge time there would be nothing to merge.
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> At present we have a source only release so this would work fairly
>
> >>>>> well, even with a binary release it would be safer and easier to
>
> >>> document
>
> >>>>> than suggesting a build of the develop branch.
>
> >>>>>>
>
> >>>>>> Opinions? If no one objects there was a critical bug fixed recently
>
> >> and
>
> >>>>> I’ll do the above to get the fix in master.
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>>
>
> >>>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>>
>
> >>
>
> >>
>
> >
>
> >
>
>

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