On 27.11.2014 12:31, Clive Bruton wrote:
On 27 Nov 2014, at 08:35, Herbert Duerr wrote:
For building older versions of OpenOffice on Mac please see [1].
I think what you are saying is that there are dependencies in the code
that require 10.7. If this is the case then the error reported should be
that the system is not supported (and why), rather than the gcc version
is incorrect.
Agreed. This and other messages should be updated to pinpoint the exact
root cause. Also the configure options that don't make sense on a
platform should be removed altogether. While reworking the configure
step IMHO also the "advanced" options should have to be enabled extra.
There is plenty of opportunity to make the configure step and the build
system much smoother.
It requires XCode 2 or XCode 3, both of which are not easy to get
nowadays. They are also almost impossible to install on current
systems. For these older versions the page also documents the
requirement to compile with the 10.4 SDK.
Actually, these versions of Xcode are easy enough to get (I downloaded
3.2.6 just a few days ago), and at least with 3.x the option is there in
the install to include support for 10.4. The old versions of Xcode are
here (Xcode 2.3-6.1 for download, just search for "Xcode"):
https://developer.apple.com/downloads/index.action
Installing and running these old XCodes on recent systems (e.g.
Yosemite) is the really tricky thing. And finding and downloading their
blobs is also not as easy as installing them from the app store.
Please see above. The build system was quite outdated, the build
requirements were more than obsolete and targeted platforms that were
no longer supported by Apple. Also many other vendors like Mozilla,
Google, Microsoft, Adobe, etc. had already dropped support for these
old platforms.
When we did the overdue refresh for newer platforms we also used the
opportunity to switch to 64bit. It would have been possible to get it
work on OSX10.6 too, but it was already unsupported by Apple then and
nobody was interested to put work into backporting the stuff [3].
Thanks for the note. I think the issue is that all the companies you
name have a commercial interest in obsolescence, I'm not sure what the
incentive for the Apache foundation would be in supporting that business
model.
I'm not sure that e.g. Google or Mozilla are interested in planned
obsolescence. They are probably just not interested in putting extra
effort into providing upgrade paths for users that seem to be averse to
upgrading. The law of diminishing returns applies in this situation.
From my own perspective, and I am probably in a small minority,
my interest in supporting older systems (ie up to 10.6) is because they
are able to run PPC and classic apps, which 10.7 is unable to do. I'm
pretty sure I have Apache and MySQL running on such systems.
The two Apache projects you mentioned probably just require plain POSIX
compliance for their development platforms. AFAIK this aspect of the Mac
development environment has remained stable, so not extra effort was
required, whereas in our GUI heavy requirements plenty of stuff has been
deprecated. We cannot ignore these deprecations forever, they'll be
removed sooner or later.
Anyway, in your case I suggest to build the latest AOO 4.0.1 source [1]
on XCode3 with the Mac 10.4 SDK using the build instructions at [2].
[1] http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/tags/AOO401/
[2]
https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide/Building_on_MacOSX
Herbert
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