On 24/10/14 20:15, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 23/10/2014 Rob Weir wrote:
>> Let's try for a 4.1.2 release
> 
> I see another priority. But it is fully compatible with making a release
> and actually the two can work together really well.
> 
> I would like to streamline our processes and remove bottlenecks and
> dependencies on non-Apache systems. In other words, it's two years that
> we are a top-level project and it is time to reach a phase where
> processes just work. It is not acceptable that we produce binary builds
> on non-Apache hardware, it is hardly acceptable that we don't have all
> our languages on Pootle, and it is not acceptable that the l10n list
> sees a reduction in activity just because I suddenly have to use a large
> part of my spare time on unrelated activities.

Well I think we added all languages on Pootle where we see activities or
interest in working on the translation. Why should we add languages
where nobody is working on? I don't get it.

Juergen

> 
> A release is probably a perfect way to make sure that everything is
> considered (and an important indicator in the Apache way). So it will
> take even more time, but if we can take care of all these tasks we will
> finally be a project with solid grounds at Apache. Some tasks, like the
> buildbots, are huge; some, like finding someone who can welcome
> volunteers on the l10n list when I can't, are easier. And it's obvious
> that we must work together, we can't expect that a few people do
> everything.
> 
>> 1) Whatever new languages/language updates we have, including of
>> course dictionary updates.
> 
> We are seeing interest in a couple of languages, but we don't have any
> new ones to release at the moment. Of course, when we establish a
> deadline we can communicate it to translators and make a plan.
> 
>> 2) Fixes for any critical bugs, especially any introduced in AOO
>> 4.1.1.  Do we know yet which bugs these are?   Do we have a short list
>> of the most critical ones?
> 
> This one https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=125519 is worth
> looking at. It's already fixed in trunk anyway.
> 
>> 3) Patches merged in from new dev volunteers.
>> I think #3 is extremely important here.
> 
> Sure, involving new development volunteers has been a priority in the
> last few months, and I'm happy to hear some new voices here. We may even
> manage to get some new features implemented, not only basic fixes.
> 
> But again... If we go for this, then mentoring developers becomes a
> priority and everyone who has the required knowledge should invest time
> on this.
> 
>> What do you think?
> 
> It is surely a good idea (and the version number does not matter that
> much), provided that all of us are ready to be actively involved as much
> as possible.
> 
> Regards,
>   Andrea.
> 
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