On Sun, Feb 16, 2014 at 3:49 AM, Marcus (OOo) <[email protected]> wrote:

> Am 02/15/2014 11:37 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>  On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:52 PM, Marcus (OOo)<[email protected]>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  Am 02/14/2014 10:47 PM, schrieb Marcus (OOo):
>>>
>>>   Am 02/14/2014 10:32 PM, schrieb Rob Weir:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Marcus (OOo)<[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  As this is our first beta release at Apache, I would like to clarify
>>>>>> some
>>>>>> things before it's maybe too late to change the facts and to prepare
>>>>>> webpages:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1. Target group
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It is intended to be downloaded for the general public, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2. Hosting
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We are planning to host the files at Sourceforge, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 3. File names:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of course the file names of the install files have to show a
>>>>>> difference
>>>>>> compared to the general release files. Suggestion:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta_Win_x86_install.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *If* there is a need to publish another round, it could be extended
>>>>>> with a
>>>>>> number like:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.0_Beta2_Win_x86_install.exe
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 4. Directory structure:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it OK to expect to use the same dir structure like we have
>>>>>> currently for
>>>>>> 4.0.1?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The above makes sense to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   5. Download webpage:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it OK to expect to offer the download on our main download webpage?
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If yes, I can build up a download offer like we have for the green
>>>>>> box. To
>>>>>> ease the download as best as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I would not make this the default download option for users. We still
>>>>> want most users to download AOO 4.0.1. So keep the first box on
>>>>> /download.html as it is now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Maybe a yellow box (yellow == caution) with language that makes it
>>>>> clear that this is beta and gives the URL for reporting bugs.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I think I was not clear in my wording. :-)
>>>>
>>>> Of course the current 4.0.1 should not be effected in any way.
>>>>
>>>> With "ease the download as best as possible" I meant to do the same like
>>>> we have for the green box but of course with a different color and text.
>>>>
>>>>   Were you thinking of a language/platform switch logic for the beta?
>>>>
>>>>> Or just a link to a "beta_other.html" page with a table of links? If
>>>>> we do the table, then we would have room on the same page to give a
>>>>> prominent warning, a link to BZ, Release Notes, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> I thought about the one-click-download we have already. Then of course a
>>>> "beta-other.html" is also needed and your suggestion makes absolutely
>>>> sense.
>>>>
>>>> It could be a box somewhere below the green box. Or - as Kay mentioned -
>>>> a separate webpage.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I've added a quick version of how it could look like on the same download
>>> webpage:
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index.html
>>>
>>> - The first yellow box is for the download when the Beta release is
>>> available. Of course the links are not yet working - but with link name
>>> and
>>> title you should get an first impression.
>>>
>>>
>> This looks good, and, given the wording, shouldn't cause confusion.
>>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>  - The second one is a little teaser to show when is it coming. With a link
>>> to the AOO blog - in case of if we want to blog about the upcoming Beta
>>> release.
>>>
>>>
>> not sure about needing this.
>>
>
> Maybe we want to push the Beta release somehow. On the download webpage
> this could help to point the attention to something that is coming soon.


Well, OK, I see your point, although the "beta" is supposed to be I just
assumed we would use normal channels when we were ready with this -- I
think the end of Feb is slated -- banner on website home page,
"announcements" e-mail, social channels. Again, it will be a "voted"
release. I think the only think that will remarkably distinguish it from a
"production" release is it's a more formal way to get feedback from users
before production.

Juergen has proposed a new date for the  "beta" to Feb. 28...I will change
this on the wiki

http://markmail.org/message/5kn5mk2qndjircqm


>
>  PS:
>>> The green box is still for the Mac OS X test:
>>> - download AOO 4.1.0 if 10.7 or newer is recognized in browser
>>> - download AOO 4.0.1 if 10.6 or older is recognized in browser
>>>
>>
>>
>> not for me! :) Still wants to give me Linux.
>>
>
> You need to browse with MacOS to the webpage. With other OS's it's just
> the normal behavior.
>
>
> Marcus
>
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